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80-90's indie nerd rock-flat affect "singing" is bad - SY, Pavement, Dinosaur Jr, Superchunk, Treepeople, Silkworm, Archers of Loaf

kicker_of_elves wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:33 am The sound engineering on the majority of SST recordings is dogshit.

I don't think anyone would argue otherwise.

handsbloodyhands wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 10:35 am 80-90's indie nerd rock-flat affect "singing" is bad - SY, Pavement, Dinosaur Jr, Superchunk, Treepeople, Silkworm, Archers of Loaf

I think that's part of the appeal sometimes. The Pavement guy rambling at me in a voice not too different from mine is fairly relatable (to the middle-aged white guy who went to college demographic).

I haven't thought too much about it but maybe it was partially a reaction to a lot of the 'doom vibrato' singing in the '80s.

^ This is interesting. I think you could probably come up with at least 8 different archetypal singer 'types' with multiple examples. They all suggest something as a character/narrator and I'm sure there's something disagreeable about each of them, especially presented as a stereotype.

enframed wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:13 pm

Curry Pervert wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:56 pm Kraftwerk are monstrously overrated, and didn't pioneer squat.

No.

They were unique.

They were dull as dishwater. Trans Europ Express has to be one of the most boring tunes committed to vinyl.

enframed wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:13 pm

Curry Pervert wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:56 pm Prosecco is just pretentious Lambrini.

Curious why you think this.

Because it doesn't taste any better, but costs a lot more.

enframed wrote: Wed Dec 08, 2021 8:13 pm

Curry Pervert wrote: Tue Dec 07, 2021 2:56 pm Opera is painful to listen to and people who claim to like it are attempting to gentrify their frontal lobes to impress other people of a similar disposition. They would all be better off with a lobotomy performed with a cheese grater.

Have you attended one?

You couldn't pay me to attend.

You guys are outta your minds. Opera rules.

ErikG wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:41 pm You guys are outta your minds. Opera rules.

I ain't hearin' nobody say that Boris Godunov is crap.

ErikG wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:41 pm You guys are outta your minds. Opera rules.

I'm a fan. I didn't know much about it until one of my kids became fascinated with The Magic Flute when he was younger. It's expensive to take the family, but since my kids don't seem to care about things like playing on traveling soccer teams or going to Disneyland which suck funds from other family budgets, we can conserve elsewhere.

jason from volo wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 7:00 pm

ErikG wrote: Thu Dec 09, 2021 4:41 pm You guys are outta your minds. Opera rules.

I won't ever say operas are crap.

Isn't Les Misérables technically an opera since there is no spoken dialogue?

It's a novel.