NYC is full of bands, too.enframed wrote:Also, the article above alludes (at least) to Taylor Swift being a solo act. She isn't. She has a band, pretty sure she always has. There's a HUGE difference between an MC/producer (Drake) and Taylor Swift. They don't seem to differentiate in the above article.
Finally, there's no shortage of bands playing live shows, in LA anyway.
I feel like “bands that are much better than their hits would suggest” is an interesting topic.zircona1 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:55 pm I saw Collective Soul like, maybe 20 years ago? They were playing our town and I liked the radio hits at the time, so I thought I'd check it out. I thought they were surprisingly good live.
I don't like those songs anymore though, except for 'Gel'.
You could make the argument they were better than Ryan Adams or some other erstwhile Pitchfork darling.zircona1 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 4:55 pm I saw Collective Soul like, maybe 20 years ago? They were playing our town and I liked the radio hits at the time, so I thought I'd check it out. I thought they were surprisingly good live.
I don't like those songs anymore though, except for 'Gel'.
Holy shit, so that’s where all that white reggae came fromzircona1 wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 1:14 pmMatthew Wilder, the guy who recorded 'Break My Stride' in the 80s, produced No Doubt's blockbuster album Tragic Kingdom.
Oh, charts specifically, yeah, sure. I suspect that began when DJs started gathering national notoriety as opposed to being regionally specific. I was working in a record shop in the early 00s and this was definitely the case.OrthodoxEaster wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:02 pmNYC is full of bands, too.enframed wrote:Also, the article above alludes (at least) to Taylor Swift being a solo act. She isn't. She has a band, pretty sure she always has. There's a HUGE difference between an MC/producer (Drake) and Taylor Swift. They don't seem to differentiate in the above article.
Finally, there's no shortage of bands playing live shows, in LA anyway.
What Carducci and Schwartz fixated on is that there are pretty much no high-charting bands anymore compared to in the past. They actually spat out some numbers from the Hot 100, comparing decades against one another, and the decline in groups and duos was pretty drastic.
By their logic, even a quartet of dopes w/a management team and a Desmond Child writing their crappy hit still has to make compromises on tour or in the practice room. It's rarely just one ego and it's more of a team. You've still got multiple players creating a sort of friction, even if there's an obvious leader.
And according to those guys (can't back this up), one face, dramatically and steadily addressing a camera, will usually get more traction via TikTok and other algorithms. (Unless it's a group doing something very antic in near-unison, a la a K-pop dance routine.)
As for Swift, I sort of doubt she's maintained anything like a consistent backing band thruout her career, who contribute meaningfully to her records and performances from an aesthetic standpoint. I suppose I could be wrong, given that I know so little about her. Has she had a stalwart bassist or a few long-time drummers or something since her country days? I dunno. But I'd bet against it.
They were proto-Creed.Krev wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 5:12 pm Collective Soul had some hits, but were second-tier horseshit, at best. These fucking songs were ubiquitous at the time.