Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 9:11 am
I'm imagining you two in the center of a room filed with piles of foam, like a hoarder's command center.
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Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 11:05 am
Here's some very exciting pix from when I was building the studio if you wanna see just how much treatment you need to actually flatten out the low end. You can't really tell but it's a few feet deep on the front and back walls, and at least the middle of the ceiling. Pink fluffy is cheap and it works awesome if you have the space to do it:
Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 11:39 am
I love looking at this stuff.
I think I read once that something like 1/3 of the depth of your space is needed to be made anechoic to actually completely undo the first order null caused my the dimensions of the space. It's an anecdotal little "rule" but it puts in perspective how much treatment is needed to actually tame low frequencies in an inclosed space. I don't have the luxury of space for that much treatment or anywhere near it. Everything I've done maybe took 6db out of my null problem, and eats some midrange boxyness. that's about it. Made a big difference to my ears, but measurements are exactly mind blowing. I'll see if I still have the last round of plots from when I put in my new monitors and the last round of panels and post them if it's worth conversation.
I think I read once that something like 1/3 of the depth of your space is needed to be made anechoic to actually completely undo the first order null caused my the dimensions of the space. It's an anecdotal little "rule" but it puts in perspective how much treatment is needed to actually tame low frequencies in an inclosed space. I don't have the luxury of space for that much treatment or anywhere near it. Everything I've done maybe took 6db out of my null problem, and eats some midrange boxyness. that's about it. Made a big difference to my ears, but measurements are exactly mind blowing. I'll see if I still have the last round of plots from when I put in my new monitors and the last round of panels and post them if it's worth conversation.
Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 11:43 am
Ok, you've convinced me to stick with headphone studio plugins. I ain't got the space or the time for that! 
Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 12:56 pm
Those pictures make me itch
Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 2:36 pm
Yeah it was no fun at all putting all that up, especially the ceiling. But at least it isn't heavy, and you've only got to do it once.
Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:24 pm
when I was in high school I had a shitty summer job of putting insulation in metal buildings in 100+ degree humid ass Arkansas. The worst. We would drive directly to the lake and jump in wearing all our clothes when we were done.MoreSpaceEcho wrote: Tue Jul 08, 2025 2:36 pm Yeah it was no fun at all putting all that up, especially the ceiling. But at least it isn't heavy, and you've only got to do it once.
Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2025 3:49 pm
That is literally the worst! I think I sweat out 5 pounds just imaging that.Kniferide wrote: putting insulation in metal buildings in 100+ degree humid ass Arkansas
Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:07 pm
The antique shop next to work got bought and new owners have marked things down to partly convert the place to a general store and ice cream place.
They’ve got some old ass electrical equipment no one has touched yet.
-vacuum tube tester
-webcor tube powered portable turntable with fold out speaker
-a small reel to reel player, don’t recall the brand
-a tool box full of vacuum tubes
-maybe a 60s or older oscilloscope
Certain that none of it works. Old owner makes everything up and was begrudged to sell anything, so it’s all been sitting there for decades.
It would probably just wind up as sorta neat looking junk in my hands, but if any of that sounds like the stuff of an interesting project or otherwise attractive, share your thoughts. The Webcor looks nice cosmetically.
They’ve got some old ass electrical equipment no one has touched yet.
-vacuum tube tester
-webcor tube powered portable turntable with fold out speaker
-a small reel to reel player, don’t recall the brand
-a tool box full of vacuum tubes
-maybe a 60s or older oscilloscope
Certain that none of it works. Old owner makes everything up and was begrudged to sell anything, so it’s all been sitting there for decades.
It would probably just wind up as sorta neat looking junk in my hands, but if any of that sounds like the stuff of an interesting project or otherwise attractive, share your thoughts. The Webcor looks nice cosmetically.
Re: Gear: TALK ME OUT OF IT or JUSTIFY MY PURCHASE?
Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 10:00 pm
The tubes would be cool. Better get that tube tester!VaticanShotglass wrote: Sun Jul 13, 2025 9:07 pm The antique shop next to work got bought and new owners have marked things down to partly convert the place to a general store and ice cream place.
They’ve got some old ass electrical equipment no one has touched yet.
-vacuum tube tester
-webcor tube powered portable turntable with fold out speaker
-a small reel to reel player, don’t recall the brand
-a tool box full of vacuum tubes
-maybe a 60s or older oscilloscope
Certain that none of it works. Old owner makes everything up and was begrudged to sell anything, so it’s all been sitting there for decades.
It would probably just wind up as sorta neat looking junk in my hands, but if any of that sounds like the stuff of an interesting project or otherwise attractive, share your thoughts. The Webcor looks nice cosmetically.