connor wrote:I just watched Robert Altman's 1977 movie 3 Women last night and noticed some pretty intense similarities between it and Mulholland Drive both stylistically and plot-wise. And, in true Lynchian fashion, Altman based the film on a dream.

Never seen, but Bergman's "Persona" was also extremely similar to Mulholland Drive in all aspects

The only David Lynch movie I've ever seen parts of is Mulholland Drive, and while those parts certainly helped increase and refine my 14-year-old appreciation of the lesbian make-out scene, it didn't occur to me that it was necessarily great filmmaking.

I think that I'd need to see Blue Velvet and Eraserhead at least before I came to any conclusion about Lynch's worth as an auteur and director.

SecondEdition wrote:The only David Lynch movie I've ever seen parts of is Mulholland Drive, and while those parts certainly helped increase and refine my 14-year-old appreciation of the lesbian make-out scene, it didn't occur to me that it was necessarily great filmmaking.

I think that I'd need to see Blue Velvet and Eraserhead at least before I came to any conclusion about Lynch's worth as an auteur and director.

Fine, but listen to some Thin Lizzy first.

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SecondEdition wrote:The only David Lynch movie I've ever seen parts of is Mulholland Drive, and while those parts certainly helped increase and refine my 14-year-old appreciation of the lesbian make-out scene, it didn't occur to me that it was necessarily great filmmaking.

I think that I'd need to see Blue Velvet and Eraserhead at least before I came to any conclusion about Lynch's worth as an auteur and director.

Fine, but listen to some Thin Lizzy first.

ha. well, I am looking forward to it. I think I'll start with Vagabonds of the Western World first, people seem to give that good reviews.

But anyways, Lynch. I don't want to derail the thread.

After three viewings I'm firmly of the conviction that IE is Lynch's best film closely followed by Mulholland Drive and find it remarkable that people are rejecting it after a single viewing.

People get so hung up on the so called 'weird' stuff in Lynch films - which usually does have an inner logic often missed on first viewings. His films for the most part are grounded in eternal themes which is just a part of what makes them great. Yes, he does return to similar themes but saying 'all Lynch films are the same' is like saying all Jackson Pollock or Mark Rothko paintings are the same.

The more I see Inland Empire the more I see what a meticulously crafted film it is. I was a little frustrated in the middle hour the first time I watched it but the second time was a revelation and the third even more clear. Inland Empire is Lynch's masterpiece and the greatest American film in years.

Do not get IE at all. Terribly boring. Could someone please explain what every sees in that movie?

AAAAAAAARGH wrote:Do not get IE at all. Terribly boring. Could someone please explain what every sees in that movie?

You're not alone on that one. I hated it. Watched it a second time thinking I might have been in a bad mood. Nope. It really was shit.

Lynch is just the type of filmmaker that no one can agree on, in terms of what his best work is, or if he is in fact good.

SecondEdition wrote:

Brett Eugene Ralph wrote:Fine, but listen to some Thin Lizzy first.

ha. well, I am looking forward to it. I think I'll start with Vagabonds of the Western World first, people seem to give that good reviews.

Good call. You'll get "Mama Nature Said," "Black Boys on the Corner," and "Little Girl in Bloom," not to mention "The Rocker" and "Whiskey in the Jar." Have fun!

Mulholland Drive...wow. Words cannot describe that movie. It hit me hard.

I love Lynch. I would have to say he's my favorite director still working today, even if I don't know how I feel about Inland Empire. Not Crap

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Brett Eugene Ralph wrote:

connor wrote:I just watched Robert Altman's 1977 movie 3 Women last night and noticed some pretty intense similarities between it and Mulholland Drive both stylistically and plot-wise. And, in true Lynchian fashion, Altman based the film on a dream.

Maybe that's why I like it so much better than Lynch's other films. You could do a lot worse than ripping off Robert Altman.

That movie is absolutely superb. Really of its time, in that there's no way it could be made now. It's very singular; the highpoint of something. When I watched it I thought it must be based on a short story. Did Altman write it? If so, that is shocking.

Yeah, I was totally unprepared for that montage. I think 3 Women might be my favorite Shelly Duvall performance. She's so fucking good in this.

I agree with this. It was a real revelation to me, being annoyed by her performance in The Shining. And yeah, great film...along with Persona too, of course.

SecondEdition wrote:The only David Lynch movie I've ever seen parts of is Mulholland Drive, and while those parts certainly helped increase and refine my 14-year-old appreciation of the lesbian make-out scene, it didn't occur to me that it was necessarily great filmmaking.

I would like some recommendations for lesbian make-out scenes that are better than the one in Mullholland Drive.

I will also gladly accept examples that are just-as-good or even slightly-less-good.

Thanks in advance.