I don't see the issue, people should be having them.
All the time.
Decisive moral issue: abortion
112japmn wrote:I don't see the issue, people should be having them.
All the time.
sounds like a great pitch for a reality show
Trashy pregnant losers get voted on by the public to see which one gets a mandatory abortion and which one gets forced to put the thing up for adoption.
Then the audience votes on the parents to adopt the non-abortion and we follow it for 18 years. If it doesnt graduate w/ honors and a 3.5 GBA + after being adopted by rich white celebs, we do a post birth abortion on the 18 year old. They get voted off the island ... OF EARTH!
Decisive moral issue: abortion
113trilonaut wrote:in case no one else said this in this massive thread -- i don't think the poll should've been phrased more elaborately than "Should abortion be kept legal? Yes or No." Having sentences following the yes and the no put words in people's mouths and slant the whole thing, people have many different rationales for how they would answer that question, don't limit it to one for each answer.
Personally I am pro-choice, though I feel the issue isn't simple and I certainly don't feel like an authority on the matter.
Population control = good thing
Women's rights = good thing
People don't get abortions for fun.
Contraception is incredibly important and the more informed people are and the easier it is to access, the less people abortions will have to happen anyway. What kills me is that a lot of pro-lifers are anti-contraception. That is inexcusable -- a pro-life person could make an argument I might find somewhat legitimate, but as soon as they condemn contraception they flush their legitimacy down the toilet and their stance is revealed as anti-sex, anti-freedom, anti-women, and just plain unrealistic. The "abstinence education" programs the right wing (ie the us gov't) are pushing right now are horrendous malevolent works of disinformation. even the spineless democrats in office can see that.
Excellent post.
Texas implemented an abstinence-only sex-ed program that predictably failed. The current teen pregnancy rate in Texas is the most glaring American example of what happens when pragmatism and common sense takes a back seat to social policy based on someone else's religious beliefs.
Decisive moral issue: abortion
114I'm not ashamed to admit that a girlfriend of mine had an abortion. Oh, and it was mine.
There's not a day that goes by that I don't praise the decision. It was and still is a good idea. Sorry if it offends you, but I didn't want my life ruined. Go figure!
People should be having a lot more abortions than they are now. Ever been to Mississippi? Alabama? Georgia? South Carolina? North Carolina? My house? Some people would've been much better off and I'm dead serious about that.
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE AUTHORITY OVER A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION. FUCK PRO-LIFE IN THE EARHOLE. YOU PEOPLE RANK ALMOST AS HIGH ON MY SHIT LIST AS PEOPLE THAT OPPOSE GAY MARRIAGE.
There's not a day that goes by that I don't praise the decision. It was and still is a good idea. Sorry if it offends you, but I didn't want my life ruined. Go figure!
People should be having a lot more abortions than they are now. Ever been to Mississippi? Alabama? Georgia? South Carolina? North Carolina? My house? Some people would've been much better off and I'm dead serious about that.
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE AUTHORITY OVER A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION. FUCK PRO-LIFE IN THE EARHOLE. YOU PEOPLE RANK ALMOST AS HIGH ON MY SHIT LIST AS PEOPLE THAT OPPOSE GAY MARRIAGE.
Decisive moral issue: abortion
115I think I'd make a good abortion doctor
Anyone know if you need any kind of degree or anything?
Anyone know if you need any kind of degree or anything?
Rick Reuben wrote:Marsupialized reminds me of freedom
Decisive moral issue: abortion
116Steve V. wrote:NO ONE SHOULD HAVE AUTHORITY OVER A WOMAN'S RIGHT TO HAVE AN ABORTION. FUCK PRO-LIFE IN THE EARHOLE. YOU PEOPLE RANK ALMOST AS HIGH ON MY SHIT LIST AS PEOPLE THAT OPPOSE GAY MARRIAGE.
I think they are typically the same people. At least that is what I have learned from my time at the low IQ abortion forum that I have been frequenting for the last month. This also explains my absence from this superior forum.
Decisive moral issue: abortion
117It's a woman's choice, and it should be legal.
I'm a guy, so I don't feel like I really should have much more to say about it than that.
For the record, however: intact dilation and extraction - or, as some people refer to it, partial-birth abortion - gets really fucking iffy, and I don't think that should be legal.
I'm a guy, so I don't feel like I really should have much more to say about it than that.
For the record, however: intact dilation and extraction - or, as some people refer to it, partial-birth abortion - gets really fucking iffy, and I don't think that should be legal.
Life...life...I know it's got its ups and downs.
Groucho Marx wrote:Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it, misdiagnosing it and then misapplying the wrong remedies.
Decisive moral issue: abortion
118SecondEdition wrote:For the record, however: intact dilation and extraction - or, as some people refer to it, partial-birth abortion - gets really fucking iffy, and I don't think that should be legal.
Those account for barely over 1% of all abortions performed per year.
I think we can take from that number that it was probably not because someone changed their mind at the last minute. I'm guessing it was medical.
I look at the "partial birth" issue the same way I look at flag burning:
It's a way to get people to strongly react and polarize so other extreme things look less right wing.
I don't hold your opinion against you 2ndEd, it's a pretty grim procedure. However, if you made it illegal in all but extreme cases my guess is that the percentage number wouldn't change because they are probably all extreme cases.
What it would do is set a precendent. "Third trimester down! Second Trimester or bust!"
I say we leave the law as it is.
-A
Itchy McGoo wrote:I would like to be a "shoop-shoop" girl in whatever band Alex Maiolo is in.
Decisive moral issue: abortion
119alex maiolo wrote: "Third trimester down! Second Trimester or bust!"
-A
Ever consider designing bumper stickers?
I feel that I should have total control over what enters and what exits my body.
End of story.
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