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Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:08 am
by Anthony Flack
Nate Dort wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:02 pm
numberthirty wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 6:23 pm Got to thinking, and "Man, is there gear that I could actually hate?..."
This is kinda where I'm at. I hate certain aspects of specific pieces of gear. Like the stupid switches on old AKG C414s. But I can't think of a single piece of gear that I refuse to use or anything like that. The stuff I've purchased and promptly resold or returned have been more in the "too complicated" or "doesn't do exactly what I need" or "uncomfortable to use" camp.
I'm past hating gear because it's uncool. Potato bass, clip on tuner, whatever.

Nigh-on every piece of gear that people think is cool now used to be uncool until cool people started doing cool things with them when they were unfashionably cheap.

I hate the Jazzmaster bridge though, because it is a poorly-engineered piece of shit.

Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 7:40 am
by losthighway
Anthony Flack wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:08 am I hate the Jazzmaster bridge though, because it is a poorly-engineered piece of shit.
Yeah. There's a reason a cottage industry built on replacement bridges that cost hundreds of dollars sprang up. Imagine a universally loved car model with a cumbersome steering wheel that many owners would replace with off brand parts keeping the one inferior part of the design for half a century.

Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:07 am
by Dr Tony Balls
Anthony Flack wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:08 am I hate the Jazzmaster bridge though, because it is a poorly-engineered piece of shit.
I think it's more *differently*-engineered. It works fine for what it was designed for, i.e. Jazz.

Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Wed Nov 09, 2022 11:14 am
by tommy
Dr Tony Balls wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 9:07 am
Anthony Flack wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 4:08 am I hate the Jazzmaster bridge though, because it is a poorly-engineered piece of shit.
I think it's more *differently*-engineered. It works fine for what it was designed for, i.e. Jazz.
It works fine if you have enough break angle. It also allows for string spacing changes. Having said that, I don't use that bridge on any of mine anymore.

Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:32 am
by Garth
Anyone brought up the MD421 and the stupid ass clip yet?

EDIT: might have found an affordable solution finally after all these years. Will give this a shot:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/725584232/ ... t-mic-clip

Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:19 pm
by twelvepoint
Garth wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 10:32 am Anyone brought up the MD421 and the stupid ass clip yet?

EDIT: might have found an affordable solution finally after all these years. Will give this a shot:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/725584232/ ... t-mic-clip
looks like a big blue mic diaper, but it's 1/4 the price of a replacement and probably a lot tougher.

Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:48 pm
by Garth
twelvepoint wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:19 pm looks like a big blue mic diaper, but it's 1/4 the price of a replacement and probably a lot tougher.
Worth mentioning that the listing itself mentions the clips they are shipping are black unless you specifically ask for blue. Video clips you can see them in black.

Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2022 12:49 am
by ChudFusk
twelvepoint wrote: Thu Nov 10, 2022 12:19 pmmic diaper
could have lots of live sound applications:

open mics
gg allin tribute bands
political debates

Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:15 am
by dontfeartheringo
Nico Adie wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:28 pm Any cymbal with a diameter of less that 18”.
FYP.
Nico Adie wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:28 pmDW drums, for reasons I can’t adequately articulate but they feel like blues lawyer drums.
OH OH! I can articulate it!

There's 8 million miles of fooh-foofery out there about DW drums. Oh, they tune the shells to specific pitches.... Oh, they have diagonal plies to make the tone "richer".... Oh, we'll need to do a credit check if you want to get a set of those....

Then they put the sharpest possible bearing edges on them so you get the least amount of contact between shell and head so NONE OF THE SHELL FOOHFERY REALLY MATTERS.

They're easy to tune because they're just a midblast because it's really the sound of the head all by itself. High tom? high-mid blast. Low tom? Low-mid blast. Kick drum? Thumpy blast, assuming there isn't a week's worth of laundry in it.

BUT AT LEAST THEY'RE EXPENSIVE

The best drums they ever made were the Classic and Contemporary Classics, which are, surprise, a Copy of Ludwig Three-Plies, and Slightly Modified Copy of Ludwig Three-Plies. Maple/poplar/maple plies. Nice, phat bearing edges. The kit I've been maintaining on this most recent tour is a Contemporary Classic kit. It's in a great ribbon-mahogany finish, too. I tried to buy it but the band said "Go to hell."

DWs are expensive and mostly pretty generic sounding BY DESIGN. The PRS of drum kits.

Gear I hate? Thumper Thrones. For drummers who are using In-Ear Monitors but want kick feedback, the thumper throne is a piston in a drum seat kicks when the beater hits the kick drum, providing haptic feedback of the kick drum, since IEMs don't have much bass response.

What? You don't want to the feeling of someone literally kicking you in the ass while you play drums? I CAN'T IMAGINE.

I hate them.

ADDED: Yes, beer-can kick drums and shallow, hanging floor toms. DW were also the original "weird depths" kings. GTFO with that 20" x 22" kick drum. The most Blues Lawyerish thing imaginable is a kick drum that doesn't fit in a van. BREAK OUT THE TABLE SAW, CLETUS.

Re: Gear you HATE

Posted: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:33 am
by Dr Tony Balls
dontfeartheringo wrote: Tue Nov 15, 2022 11:15 am Gear I hate? Thumper Thrones. For drummers who are using In-Ear Monitors but want kick feedback, the thumper throne is a piston in a drum seat kicks when the beater hits the kick drum, providing haptic feedback of the kick drum, since IEMs don't have much bass response.
Do you really need haptic feedback on something you just did by moving your leg and foot against a pedal/beater/head combination? Seems like you can feel that just fine.