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So the question on the table is:

If you are exposed to art that you consider superb, but then later learn that the artist is/was overtly (and unforgivably[?]) flawed, would that prevent you from there forth enjoying that art? Enjoying other art by that artist?

I guess it depends on the art.
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BClark wrote:ha, i'm just joshin' ya. anyhow, "cunt"?... for all the relentless ethics, i think feminists would have a field day with that one, steve.


I know this quote is going back a bit, but I was having a conversation about this the other day...

shouldn't a true feminist consider the word cunt in the same way that most the population considers dick to be acceptable. The fact that it is such a bad word only adds to the sentiment the the feminine is some how inferior or more disgusting than the masculine.

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Boombats wrote:Man everyone is jumping on the bandwagon to make BClark into some kind of monster (sorry Lars). I think he just made some faulty statements, and in defending himself left loose ends in his logic. I know when ten people jump down anyone's throat at once, one does't always think long enough before they respond and thus can be prone to errors that give further fuel to their detractors. BClark shouldn't have tried to defend himself cuz he dug his hole deeper, but I think everyone else should get off their high fucking horse and chillax. I can only imagine some of the bullshit statements that have come out of some of your mouths in your lives, but you are lucky that your mistakes haven't been exposed on this particular thread. Everyone makes faux pas, but the errors do not necessarily reflect on the person as a whole.

Oh and guess what...famous musicians are not your friends, they are random strangers that make music. Being a fan of the tunes does not require subscription to their cult of personality. If you like their music it should have nothing to do with their religion, sexual orientation or politics. I suppose this applies differently to rappers as their words are their music, but you get my drift.

After thinking about this, I will admit that I do include my opinions of a person for some types of music, specifically ego-driven rock. I don't like much music that is oriented around dynamic or charismatic people, but there are some decent groups where the frontman's attitude is integral to the whole package. The thing is, I assume these jokers are dickheads in real life, so if I hear they are racist homophobic or sexist then I'm not suprised (I'm lookin' at you, James Brown). For the most part I avoid this type of music, eschewing it for instrumentally talent-based groups. If the music can stand by itself, well I'm not going to find a Miles lick unlistenable because he tortures kittens.


Seconded as long as an artist isn't using their music to further their bullshit agenda ala skrewdriver then I don't think their negaive personal qualities eschew their music, but I can understand why it would for some people. As much as most people are loathe to admit it alot of times a bands image/ideology is as important as the music itself.
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I won't lie to you, I don't want to be invisible so that I can expose the illuminati, I just want to see Natalie Portman DJing at her downstairs disco.

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Reminds me of the scene in The Office (UK) where we find Gareth Keenan saying:

"And I'm not homophobic, all right? Come round, look at my CDs. You'll see Queen, George Michael, Pet Shop Boys. They're all bummers."
But I digress. Please continue with the squirrel circuit semantic debate.

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