My allegiance lies with:

Fugazi
Total votes: 125 (49%)
The Jesus Lizard
Total votes: 131 (51%)
Total votes: 256

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Dr. Venkman wrote:
Marsupialized wrote:
big_dave wrote:
Dr. Venkman wrote:Fucking Birthday Pony?!


Never understood the dislike for that song. It's pretty funny, and I like the quiet bit towards the end.


It's not a bad song at all


It's the worst song I've ever heard. Try listening to the first 15 or so minutes of In On The Kill Taker and tell me it's not the best Fugazi album. What's that? Yes, you're right. Birthday Pony does suck. Thunderdome: Birthday Pony Vs. Facet Squared, or Smallpox Champion, or Public Witness Program. Stop it.


it's all in the intros. red medicine wins on intro.
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Both these bands have their own permanent place in my own personal history as critical stepping stones to where I am now as a noise fanatic, and I do blame both bands, also personally, for not going further than they did. Such a difficult match-up, props to the thread-starter, but ultimately it is FUGAZI that comes out on top. Why? Because:

Jesus Lizard sold out in the end. Stop covering for them. They did. I love Duane Denison. I love his guitar, but God bless him, he sold his soul. David Yow, don't get me started. Ian and Guy are dorks, maybe, but they remained true to the fight, and you know it, you can't argue with it. Stop your manuvering. Maybe you dislike the mature, and thoughtful The Argument but it's ten times smarter and more respectable than the unspeakable horror that came at he end of TJL.

Fugazi. By a hair.
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Ultimate Thunderdome: Fugazi vs. The Jesus Lizard

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honeyisfunny wrote:
holmes wrote:
eliya wrote:
Marsupialized wrote:
Bradley wrote:
Tommy Alpha wrote:
tommydski wrote:
holmes wrote:fugazi border on annoying and vagualy fascist ironically.

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For reals. WTF?


I voted for fugazi, but I get where he's coming from (I think). One thing I noticed watching the Instrument dvd was that, for a band founded on a punk rock ethos, they sure do spend a lot of time telling people what they can and cannot do...


you are way off base.

They ask people not to be violent and destructive at their shows because guess who is responsible if someone destroys a bunch oif shit at the venue? Or breaks their neck slam dancing? Who's the kids parents gonna sue?
They would be the target, they had no label or teams of lawyers or what have you to deal with such things. they did it all on their own, every step of teh way.
One real bad incident could have destroyed everything they had built and worked for.
So yeah, I'd ask people not to destroy shit and please don't crowd surf as well if I'm in that position. One show you can't jump on people's heads at, big deal, grow up.


I don't think it's the fear of being sued, I think it's just that they didn't want these unfortunate things to happen while they're playing. no? I mean, they seem like the most caring people ever.


i hate fucking slam dancing man. that had nothing to do with it. why on earth would that be the first thing that popped into your head after reading my post? im talking about all that DONT drink DONT smoke. its not that they just say they arent into it - that would be fine, in fact id give them major props. they go as far as to almost alienate you from their scene if you do. thats utter bullshit man. this is fucking punk rock - its for all different types of people. fair enough if you dont want drink or smokes at your, gig thats fine fine too. but to alienate people for wanting to buy that shit in their own time, and forcing that way of life on your (not all the time but often) very damaged-impressionable-young-probably-bullied fan base is bullshit. That side i am not debating the many other actually great things they have done at all.

im with bradley on this one.


Where the fuck did you get that from Fugazi? I'm not doing a name drop but I've been to a bar with Fugazi. They're regular guys, some of whom don't drink. I never get that I can't drink from their music or that I am somehow not allowed to do things. Apart from maybe beating up a gay person in a park but I would say that's something of a given that that's 'bad'.
And if someone wants to police their own show in order to make sure everyone in there has the best time they possibly can without people acting like they're on MTV then more power to them.


various live show quotes and various interviews and various books such as 'are band could be your life' or whatever its called, is where the fuck i got that from. but i guess i havent been to the pub with them so who knows.
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