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So I got a turntable as a wedding gift (a Crosley Cruiser Plus). Now I need some records. Is going to stores and just flipping through what they have the best way? For instance, I was looking on Sub Pop's site last night, b/c I wanted to get Pissed Jeans' King of Jeans on vinyl, but they're sold out. Where would I go if I really wanted a copy of it?

What are the best sites for ordering LP's online (not Amazon, I guess). Band websites, Bandcamp, etc, I'm assuming?

zircona1 wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 10:49 am So I got a turntable as a wedding gift (a Crosley Cruiser Plus). Now I need some records. Is going to stores and just flipping through what they have the best way? For instance, I was looking on Sub Pop's site last night, b/c I wanted to get Pissed Jeans' King of Jeans on vinyl, but they're sold out. Where would I go if I really wanted a copy of it?

What are the best sites for ordering LP's online (not Amazon, I guess). Band websites, Bandcamp, etc, I'm assuming?

Bandcamp, label websites, discogs.com. Those and flipping through records...

Forced exposure used to be a good online shop, but I haven't used it in years.

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/4636735?ev=rb

https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/1893819?ev=rb

The internal suspension is to isolate the tonearm from the motor. It’s not for decoupling from the floor.

biscuitdough wrote: Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:07 pm The internal suspension is to isolate the tonearm from the motor. It’s not for decoupling from the floor.

it is on my turntable. The suspension isolates the platter/arm/subchassis from any external vibration, whether from the speakers or the environment. Its resonant frequency is somewhere around 6Hz. So the turntable suspension can handle things above 6Hz. Below 6Hz you have a problem. The ideal platform for MY TURNTABLE is a very rigid light structure that is so light its resonant frequency is above 6Hz. The turntable can deal with any vibration that this platform/structure passes.

Since a small light end table is often not tall enough or takes up too much floor space, wall mouniting on a solid wall is a good way to isolate the turntable from footfall, since the wall will not move as much as the floor. The shelf I showed is another small light rigid structure whose resonant freq. is somewhere north of 5Hz, which is the range that SoTA Turntables, AR turntables, VPI turntables, Ariston turntables, SME turntables, Linn turntables, Thorens turntables and other suspended designs are meant to handle. The low mass crowd, led by Rega, Project, Music Hall and the like uses rubber feet and light stiff materials in the platter and body but not sure how it all is supposed to work. I do know these platforms are very very sensitive to footfall, much moreso than the suspended players. Rega also sells a wall shelf with special little cups to catch the distinctive 3 rubber Rega feet.

High mass heavy as shit turntables I do not understand at all. I guess only that a 75 lb turntable itself will effectively refuse to get excited by any vibration over 2hz or something. But I don't understand why you wouldn't want a mechanical high pass filter as part of your turntable design.

Well, now I know some new stuff about turntables. It seems more of a time-honed craft than a science, honestly, especially when informed people say things like:

motorbike guy wrote: The low mass crowd, led by Rega, Project, Music Hall and the like uses rubber feet and light stiff materials in the platter and body but not sure how it all is supposed to work.

High mass heavy as shit turntables I do not understand at all. I guess only that a 75 lb turntable itself will effectively refuse to get excited by any vibration over 2hz or something. But I don't understand why you wouldn't want a mechanical high pass filter as part of your turntable design.

By the way, I love that FM Bishopdante actually had a practical example about something he pontificated about!

biscuitdough wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:12 am
By the way, I love that FM Bishopdante actually had a practical example about something he pontificated about!

I also have issues with footsteps when playing records and am thinking about pulling out a 12"x12" stepper from my back yard to try this. It will definitely fall outside our 2022 "beautify the living room" effort though

biscuitdough wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:12 am Well, now I know some new stuff about turntables. It seems more of a time-honed craft than a science, honestly, especially when informed people say things like:

motorbike guy wrote: The low mass crowd, led by Rega, Project, Music Hall and the like uses rubber feet and light stiff materials in the platter and body but not sure how it all is supposed to work.

High mass heavy as shit turntables I do not understand at all. I guess only that a 75 lb turntable itself will effectively refuse to get excited by any vibration over 2hz or something. But I don't understand why you wouldn't want a mechanical high pass filter as part of your turntable design.

By the way, I love that FM Bishopdante actually had a practical example about something he pontificated about!

i thought I was clear about what I understood, and I did not attempt to explain things that I do not understand. I am not trying to bullshit anybody. sorry if I come across as a know it all, but there is a lot about hifi I do not know.

motorbike guy wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 1:03 pm

biscuitdough wrote: Mon Jan 03, 2022 11:12 am Well, now I know some new stuff about turntables. It seems more of a time-honed craft than a science, honestly, especially when informed people say things like:

motorbike guy wrote: The low mass crowd, led by Rega, Project, Music Hall and the like uses rubber feet and light stiff materials in the platter and body but not sure how it all is supposed to work.

High mass heavy as shit turntables I do not understand at all. I guess only that a 75 lb turntable itself will effectively refuse to get excited by any vibration over 2hz or something. But I don't understand why you wouldn't want a mechanical high pass filter as part of your turntable design.

By the way, I love that FM Bishopdante actually had a practical example about something he pontificated about!

i thought I was clear about what I understood, and I did not attempt to explain things that I do not understand. I am not trying to bullshit anybody. sorry if I come across as a know it all, but there is a lot about hifi I do not know.

That’s not what I meant at all! I was saying that I got the impression that there’s a lot that’s hard to pin down about turntables. Case in point, even though you know a lot about turntables, much about them remains obscure.

All this hi-fi talk has inspired me to clean up my old Harman Kardon 330c receiver. 30 watts, sleek 80s styling. Needs new lamps (on order) and the acrylic faceplate needs scratches cleaned. \I'm not sure if the thing still works, as I haven't used it in 15 years, but I'm optimistic. It does turn on without any funny smells.

I think I paid $30 for this around '96 at In Your Ear records in Boston.

related: what do you all like for image hosting? I'll post some photos of the project.

All this hi-fi talk has me thinking too . . .

I’m not in the market right now—this is more out of curiosity than anything else—but what receiver/amp would people recommend for both vinyl and a television? Is there anything modest size that can handle both well?