My 11 year old plays in a trad keys, drums, bass, guitar combo. She has no idea what a modeler is.

I plan on keeping this intact as long as possible.

llllllllllllllllllll wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 2:51 pm Guys. When I was 20 years old I didn’t give a shit about what other 20 year olds were doing. I know that because I was here. There are still a bunch of bass/gtr/drum bands with actual 20 year olds playing regular guitars and amps. The laptops on stage thing has been going back a long time. Pods have been out for forever. People are now getting the same sound out of plugins that people used to get from racks. I know that because I am buying the racks for $150-$250 now. You just didn’t hear words like “workflow” and “user interface” used so much outside of work.

Not everything in the future is new, some stuff gets more the same.

I don't think the idea behind the tech is especially new, but a lot of how it is implemented is fairly "modern" and the quality is a lot higher. Having most of what is heard on stage being pre programmed and automated, including FX switching and visuals all being programed isn't a new idea, but a 15 year old has access to it like never before. You can do it from an iPad. In ear monitors as the norm, no "real" amps or a speaker of any kind on stage isn't unheard of. It's just an evolution of all that stuff that has been around for a long time. The idea of what a band is or should be is broader than it was 20 years ago for sure. It trickles down to the intent of the music completely. An entire album of songs is not necessarily the goal of writing a bunch of songs compared to trickling out "drops" on social media. Spotify rewards that style of release. Shit's just a little different. I would argue Social media has made 20 year olds giving a shit about what other 20 year olds are doing and caring if they know what you are doing a lot tighter of a focus that it was for me when I was 20 for damn sure.

Frankie99 wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 3:00 pm My 11 year old plays in a trad keys, drums, bass, guitar combo. She has no idea what a modeler is.

I plan on keeping this intact as long as possible.

Good luck. By the time she is 15 she will be 3d printing Blooze Tonez directly into your neural link via blue tooth!

I love modelers for everything. They do and all of the problems they solve. Like making a good sounding demo

I wish the internet hadn’t ruined used gear prices so young kids could get an accidental awesome amp more readily. But they figure out how to do cool things with what they can get

FWIW, the band of younger folks I mentioned earlier are definitely not playing video game music, in some respects it was like a more pop-punk New Pornographers or even some Velocity Girl. They play shows at regular ass dive bars and all, just not w/ guitar amps!

Oh man, fuck a click, and double fuck backing tracks. Karaoke night is Wednesday. And I like video game music.

tallchris wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:26 pm FWIW, the band of younger folks I mentioned earlier are definitely not playing video game music, in some respects it was like a more pop-punk New Pornographers or even some Velocity Girl. They play shows at regular ass dive bars and all, just not w/ guitar amps!

Yeah, same with those kids in North Dakota. Though I'm glad that y'all are tuned into to a bunch of young people making video game music!

I have a hard time even getting into “punk” and adjacent bands that use in-ears, only because it’s always a band I had seen previously and they were far more dynamic. Probably a million things but then in-ear monitors are the visible difference. I’m looking at you Fucked Up, I want you sloppy!

I saw this one recently and I like it well enough but the word “live” is doing a lot of work here

TylerDeadPine wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:22 am I have a hard time even getting into “punk” and adjacent bands that use in-ears, only because it’s always a band I had seen previously and they were far more dynamic. Probably a million things but then in-ear monitors are the visible difference. I’m looking at you Fucked Up, I want you sloppy!

Are bands using in-ears at the small (200 and under) club level these days? And if so, do clubs generally accommodate musicians who bring them? I’m very much of the “irresponsibly loud monitor blasting in my left ear to be heard over my drums” generation and am now in need of hearing aids. So I guess chalk that up for IEMs at least.