I just got this off of eBay:

The Boss DF 2. I had never heard of this pedal before. Apparently, it's your standard SD 1, but if you hold the pedal down, it simulates feedback. I will be surprised if it's anything like feedback, but it has great potential to generate interesting results. Plus it was apparently a japan-only pedal, so my snob points just got a boost.

It's predigital, so your guess is as good as mine how it's generating/looping the "feedback" tone.

It should be showing up this week sometime, and I'm looking forward to giving it a test toast.

I also own:
Fuzz Factory (fun)
Hairpie (very solid clone of the first series Big Muffs)
Black Big Muff (heavily modded to sound great on bass)
VOX Tonebender reissue (not bad, not great)
Rat (modded to not sound quite so much like ass)
ROSS babyshit brown model (okay, but I've never been as crazy for this pedal as other people are)
SessionMan II (distortion+delay=Framptastic! hilariously fun to play with)
Guyatone HD2 (sounds really interesting, but has no gain, so only useful for non-live applications)
SD-1 (whatever. still better than a Rat)
Danelectro Fab Overdrive (I'm sure I'll find just the perfect overdub to use this on someday)
Snarling Dog Tweed (not that bad, actually - it's flexible and covers the bases from "bluesy growl" to "crunchy" with workmanlike dependability. 2/3rds of your guitarcenter distortion vocabulary covered in one little box.)
Jucifet (a FET gain pedal which is great for what it is)



And my standard rig, which has the rockalizer:

featuring some compression, a green ringer clone, and a whole lotta gain. And the Brayer:

Which is a very messed up Octavia copy.

Uncle Ovipositor wrote:I just got this off of eBay:

The Boss DF 2. I had never heard of this pedal before. Apparently, it's your standard SD 1, but if you hold the pedal down, it simulates feedback. I will be surprised if it's anything like feedback, but it has great potential to generate interesting results. Plus it was apparently a japan-only pedal, so my snob points just got a boost.

It's predigital, so your guess is as good as mine how it's generating/looping the "feedback" tone.

It should be showing up this week sometime, and I'm looking forward to giving it a test toast.

I had one of these back in the early nineties and it was a bit of fun. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a Japan-only pedal, because someone got it new from a local store for me as a gift, so I hope snob points aren't too important for you.

Here is a post from a Harmony Central board thread explaining how it works, with links to schematics, etc. I looked it up a while back when I was listening to old four-track recordings that I used it on, and I always wanted to know how the "feedback" function worked.

The DF-2 "feedback" circuit is built around a CD4046 CMOS phase-locked loop (PLL) which is continually tracking a heavily filtered and processed version of the input signal. It compares this to its own output passed through a flip-flop (binary divider), effectively making the PLL a frequency doubler, outputting a square wave at the twice the frequency (or the frequency it thinks) you're playing (that's why chords confuse this pedal, octave dividers and other similar devices). The PLL direct output signal (octave above your signal) and that same signal passed through the flip-flop (same frequency as your signal) are sent to opposite ends of the "overtone" control, and the output of that control goes to a low-pass filter to yield a tone more like a triangle or sine wave. Pressing and holding the pedal charges up a crude envelope generator, biasing the gate of a FET (field-effect transistor, like a solid-state tube) until it permits the filtered signal from the overtone control to pass to the output mixer.

It definitely doesn't come close to sounding like actual feedback. I would say it sounds more like an EBow or something, but it's good enough for some fun and may inspire some ideas.

I played one but the feedback was a interesting but odd sound. I think one of the big NYC noise bands used one, can't remember which. It does have a distintive sound. I think it was one of the boxes that was made in Japan, don't think they were so popular so they were probibly low production.

Bought a used Prescription Electonics Yardbox (blue sparkle) and have been playing it through my Supro amp. It sure sounds nice, I was suprized as most of the fuzzes from this period are fuzzy but kind of lack sustain. No problem with the Yard box likes chords has a real nice bass end to the tone knob. I will probibly use it in some set up definately on recording. Reminds me of the Roger Mayer fuzzes, which are real nice.

Still using mostly the Zoom Ultra Fuzz > XXL > old mystery home made box > Ibanez PM7 Phase Modulator > Yamaha Magic Stomp

I like the Zoom the gate, it works well for me, somehow this pedal is nice even though it's a Zoom.

ipitcher wrote:I had one of these back in the early nineties and it was a bit of fun. I'm pretty sure it wasn't a Japan-only pedal, because someone got it new from a local store for me as a gift, so I hope snob points aren't too important for you.

Fuck. And I already paid for the damn thing.

Sorry, man. There's still time to get C.C. DeVille's though.

ipitcher wrote:Sorry, man. There's still time to get C.C. DeVille's though.

DOUBLEFUCK!!

I guess I can always have 2, one for playing, one for impressing chicks. "Yeah, CC totally thrashed the level pot during 'Cherry Pie' at the Buddakan. I could fix it because I'm handy, but that there is a piece of rock history and I ain't gonna ruin it."
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Imagine what the silly little pointy boot looked like that ruined that pot.

Actually, it would be sort of cool to have two of these so you could run them in parallel or series and do intervals.

Uncle Ovipositor wrote:"Yeah, CC totally thrashed the level pot during 'Cherry Pie' at the Buddakan.

Why would he have been covering a Warrant song?

I like these DFs.
I had one but sold it. I thought about making it so I could latch the "feedback" note so I could screw with it downstream.
Just lazy I guess.

-A

alex maiolo wrote:

Uncle Ovipositor wrote:"Yeah, CC totally thrashed the level pot during 'Cherry Pie' at the Buddakan.

Why would he have been covering a Warrant song?

If you were a real fan you wouldn't need to ask that question.

I just bought a DN, bassist just bought a TP. They should be here soon.