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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:45 am
by gcbv_Archive
Flaneur wrote:
gcbv wrote:There is NOTHING, and I repeat NOTHING, inherently positive about a large scale corporate entity moving into thousands, I repeat THOUSANDS, of neighborhoods across the U.S., with the oddly interesting attributes of a virus, whose intent is to "conquer" (their language) and put other smaller, locally owned coffee businesses out on their ass.


Other than health insurance and stock options for both full-time and part-time employees, and, compared to similar work available in the neighborhood, the lack of a deep fryer.


And also a system that keeps employees from having just enough hours for those benefits, that is part of the management plan. Just like Wal-Mart.

And who doesn't love deep fried clams once in a while?

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:46 am
by Your Capn Speakin_Archive
I'll have to tell Java Monkey, Dr. Bombay's, Urban Grounds, the two (is it three/) Auroras and that other fucker that opened up six months ago in Decatur and whose name eludes me to quit competing so damned well against Starbucks. Viral death is the natural order of the weaker economic unit.

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:47 am
by Skronk_Archive
Colonel Panic wrote:Starbuck's is everywhere but that doesn't stop me from buying my coffee from an independent coffee shop (Perfect Cup on Leland and Damen) every morning on my way to catch the train.


You realize these stores are fading away because of Starbucks, right?

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:47 am
by gcbv_Archive
Your Cap'n Speakin' wrote: Viral death is the natural order of the weaker economic unit.


This should be tattooed on every person born after 2010.

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:52 am
by DrAwkward_Archive
Skronk wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:Starbuck's is everywhere but that doesn't stop me from buying my coffee from an independent coffee shop (Perfect Cup on Leland and Damen) every morning on my way to catch the train.


You realize these stores are fading away because of Starbucks, right?


On Brady Street in Milwaukee, there are a pair of independent coffee shops doing just fine down the street from the Starbucks on the corner of Brady and Farwell. Hell, they've co-existed for years and years now.

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:53 am
by kerble_Archive
gcbv wrote:Secondly, let's briefly discuss this one aspect that is kind of nagging me: There are a handful of folks saying here that STARBUCKS isnt' "that bad," as compared to this or that.

There is even the argument that "STARBUCKS actually HELPS local mom/pop coffee places by increasing the amount of coffee."

If you would spend about 15 minutes or so studying on say, for example, WHO PUTS OUT THOSE "STUDIES" and WHO PAYS FOR THEM, you'd see that you just took a big old slobbering chomp on the ole corporate paradigm propaganda dong.

There is NOTHING, and I repeat NOTHING, inherently positive about a large scale corporate entity moving into thousands, I repeat THOUSANDS, of neighborhoods across the U.S., with the oddly interesting attributes of a virus, whose intent is to "conquer" (their language) and put other smaller, locally owned coffee businesses out on their ass.

Fuck them, and fuck you for not stepping up to the plate when the obvious is right in your face.

It's like saying Wal-Mart is not as bad because they centralize shopping into one convenient place, and sometimes give money to women's shelters. Of course they do, but they also put my Grandpa's family store out of business, and they did it consciously so, without a ounce of remorse.

Again, putting money into your hands from aligning with them, and giving them money from your name is despicable, in my opinion.


Yeah, but it's a franchise, so the starbucks can be, and often is, a family business anyway. they just have a branded product they sell, as opposed to getting stuff from several distributors.

it's the same with gas stations, same with mcdonald's. all these jackoff liberals (totally not directed at you, gagecbv) that smash starbucks' windows thinking they're doing something meaningful, are just screwing over mom and pop, who wanted to start a coffee shop, but got a starbucks instead, because the brand recognition would keep it afloat.

to a certain degree, the corporate store is the new family business. I mean, mom and pop aren't growing the beans are they? they're getting their cups from one distributor, the teas from another, pastries from a third. So they have some dumbshit corporate logo on the side, and now they only have to deal with one person to keep their store running. it's efficient.

My family owns and operates a citgo out in the sw burbs. We're not weird corporate drones, we're a friendly bunch of people. I play guitar when I work there. I lug in my amp and my guitar and I fucking wail. It's still part of a corporation, but who can tell?

also, every spoiled cunt that drives off at the pump thinking that they're fucking big business are just screwing some family out of the days profit.

I would love for you to die.


also, starbucks coffee is fucking terrible.

the americano is good, though.

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:55 am
by El Protoolio_Archive
kerble wrote:
also, starbucks coffee is fucking terrible.

the americano is good, though.


So are the mocha frappes!

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:57 am
by Skronk_Archive
DrAwkward wrote:
Skronk wrote:
Colonel Panic wrote:Starbuck's is everywhere but that doesn't stop me from buying my coffee from an independent coffee shop (Perfect Cup on Leland and Damen) every morning on my way to catch the train.


You realize these stores are fading away because of Starbucks, right?


On Brady Street in Milwaukee, there are a pair of independent coffee shops doing just fine down the street from the Starbucks on the corner of Brady and Farwell. Hell, they've co-existed for years and years now.


A lot of people don't want to see these places fold, so they make an effort to buy coffee from independent coffeehouses.

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:58 am
by Colonel Panic_Archive
kerble wrote:also, starbucks coffee is fucking terrible...

They roast the hell out of it to cover up the fact that it's made from mediocre beans, then "educate" their staff that it's the best goddamn coffee in the Western world.

So on that count, yeah, Starbucks sucks copious amounts of ass. But that's the same thing all huge corporations do. They buy the most economical raw materials to manufacture their products, then they market them as the pinnacle of quality.

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Posted: Mon Jun 18, 2007 12:01 pm
by kerble_Archive
El Protoolio wrote:
kerble wrote:
also, starbucks coffee is fucking terrible.

the americano is good, though.


So are the mocha frappes!


both styles of the double shot are pretty much perfect.