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141Maybe if it said 'Hecho en Mexico' on it.
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142Rick Reuben wrote:You didn't. The guy outside your window doesn't represent all Mexicans.Mandroid2.0 wrote: I didn't mean to equate Mexicans to pieces of shit.
If you had a cell phone that worked terribly, and you said, "Piece of shit cellphone!", would someone interpret that as a blanket complaint against all cell phones?
What if she said "You black pieces of shit?" Would you contend that 'black' was used as a descriptor?
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143My lazy, legally Mexican enough to get college financial aid self wasn't offended in the least bit.
If she would have said, "spic pieces of shit," things would be different. Chilli out folks, con queso.
If she would have said, "spic pieces of shit," things would be different. Chilli out folks, con queso.
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144Anyone ever stop to consider that she may be a fervent nationalist?
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145The Code is Almighty wrote:Also, contrary to Panic's insinuations, I'm rather employable and highly affective in the work place. Call me.
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146Do Mexicans really exist? I've only seem them in films. I thought they were just a fictitious Hollywood device like supervillains or sentient robots or Jews.
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147Rick Reuben wrote:As a descriptor of those outside her window? Sure. Applicable to an entire ethnicity? Of course not. It's preposterous.Josef K wrote:What if she said "You black pieces of shit?" Would you contend that 'black' was used as a descriptor?
The operative term is 'piece of shit'. It's directed to one person. Adding the identifier of race does not mean that it is no longer about one person.
The sentence 'Mexicans are pieces of shit' is a racist statement. See the 's'? The reason why you know it is a stupid racist statement is that it requires a person to believe that they can speak about *all* Mexicans. Since we know that no one has ever met *all* Mexicans, or probably .01% of Mexicans, the person saying 'Mexicans are pieces of shit' reveals himself to be an idiot. It's as stupid as a person who sees his first dolphin at Sea World saying, 'Dolphins live in water parks.'
It's only about race where people make this stupid mistake of believing that a person who complains about one member of a race automatically must be prejudiced against the entire race. If you were having an argument with your wife of girlfriend and the word 'bitch' was used, does that make you a misogynist against all women, or just pissed off at your wife?
I understand your explanation R, but in the grand scheme of things, black and Mexican in this context would not be seen as descriptors by the vast majority of people because their use is pejorative. You wrote about the ambiguity and hypocricy of the situation earlier and I agree with you but one way to remove the ambiguity is not to use language that is racist.
Now I'm not looking for any prizes for being a right-on guy here, I don't have any Afro Caribean, Asian or even Mexican friends so I'm not sticking up for anyone. But racist language whether heartfelt or not is lazy, dangerous and pervasive and unless we let it drop from normal everyday conversations then it will continue to perpetuate both perceived and actual racist behaviour.
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148What if I call a dirty Polack a 'spic piece of shit'? What happens then?
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149alandeus wrote:What if I call a dirty Polack a 'spic piece of shit'? What happens then?
Polacks aren't really dirty, they are a pretty clean bunch of people. A little 'off' sure....but dirty, nah.
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150This Pollack is filthy. Filthy filthy filthy.
And more than just a little off, sir.
Thank you very much.
And more than just a little off, sir.
Thank you very much.
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