ID’d at a McDonalds? Hmm. Is that a normal thing to happen, to be ID’d at a McDonalds?

Nico Adie wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:53 pm ID’d at a McDonalds? Hmm. Is that a normal thing to happen, to be ID’d at a McDonalds?

Not for real Italians

rsmurphy wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:54 am Not one civil right in this country was gained through goodwill; they will be reversed via the same medium.

Quoting this because it must not be forgotten. OrthodoxEaster, i think you're a good dude and you mean well, but it's so naive to think that we can shop our way out of this. If consumer choices could change anything then all the green ink and plastic and all the pink ribbons on boxes of corn flakes would have done something by now. We have been conned into thinking that there is such a thing as ethical consumption. Nobody is going to boycott insurance companies or any other sector of the marketplace, not at the magnitude necessary to enact change. People are dumber and weaker now than ever. I'm not saying that executing executives is the only hypothetical solution, but it's a pretty good one.

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:11 pm Appears the suspect is a prep-school kid who went to an Ivy League college.

And was arrested at McDonald's.

Make of all that what you will.

Self check out kiosk not even once

penningtron wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:17 pm Had gobbledygook socio-political views and possible mental illness in recent months. So, like every shooter basically.

Not like every shooter - he didn’t go after minorities or kids.

My dude might have slept on McRib just this once.

zorg wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:52 pm My dude might have slept on McRib just this once.

I was thinking about that. I wonder if he was there to use the WiFi for some kind of security reasons. What I don't get is why he didn't take the first chance he could find to sink his gun and silencer and fake ID in the nearest river, swamp, dumpster, anything but on his fucking person. I mean we know he's not a professional at this point, but that is the most rookie move of an otherwise pretty smooth operation.

A Patsy!!

ChudFusk wrote: Quoting this because it must not be forgotten. OrthodoxEaster, i think you're a good dude and you mean well, but it's so naive to think that we can shop our way out of this. If consumer choices could change anything then all the green ink and plastic and all the pink ribbons on boxes of corn flakes would have done something by now. We have been conned into thinking that there is such a thing as ethical consumption. Nobody is going to boycott insurance companies or any other sector of the marketplace, not at the magnitude necessary to enact change. People are dumber and weaker now than ever. I'm not saying that executing executives is the only hypothetical solution, but it's a pretty good one.

I'm not saying shop. I'm saying... shop less. Or, as little as possible.

And I didn't say we would "shop our way out of this." I just think shopping less or boycotting certain companies outright would be more constructive (and less messy) than country-day-school kids carrying out tear-in-an-ocean assassinations.

I do agree w/your statement about people being dumber and weaker than ever, though. True!

But I don't think somehow convincing significant numbers to stop paying insurance premiums or refuse Amazon is any more far-fetched than putting your faith in amateur-hour executions of executives. That's fine if the first proposal seems naive to you. But the second one seems absurd to me. And kinda pointless.

At least Patty Hearst had style. And didn't kill anyone.

We'll see if the boy (who appears to be the son of a real-estate heir?) leaves any more of a mark on society than she did. And if his legacy will be larger than inciting a few weeks of social-media hysteria.

DaveA wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:49 pm

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:11 pmAppears the suspect is a prep-school kid who went to an Ivy League college.

And was arrested at McDonald's.

I'm waiting for McDonald's to release a statement about how they don't condone political violence.

Yeah. That'd be almost as funny as Walmart's post-George Floyd Center for Racial Equity. (I wish I were making that up.)

ChudFusk wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 8:56 pm

zorg wrote: Mon Dec 09, 2024 7:52 pm My dude might have slept on McRib just this once.

I was thinking about that. I wonder if he was there to use the WiFi for some kind of security reasons. What I don't get is why he didn't take the first chance he could find to sink his gun and silencer and fake ID in the nearest river, swamp, dumpster, anything but on his fucking person. I mean we know he's not a professional at this point, but that is the most rookie move of an otherwise pretty smooth operation.

I’d have to guess the crazy (off meds?) just caught up with him. According to the police he was not on their list of suspects at all, and he could easily be in Laos by now. He certainly had no use for a gun, and you can use wifi a million places less exposed than a McDonalds (like the parking lot). I like the patsy idea, but that takes a lot of suppositions.