10 more I just thought of:

Oscar Peterson - Night Train
Dave Brubeck - Time Out
Thelonius Monk - The Genius Of Modern Music
John Cale - Paris 1919
John McLaughlin and The Mahavishnu Orchestra - Birds Of Fire
John Cale & Lou Reed - Songs For Drella
Gang of Four - Entertainment
Misfits - Walk Among Us
Public Enemy - It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back
Amon Tobin - Supermodified

...oops. Tried to merge my two posts above. Guess I screwed that up pretty good.

sphincter wrote:

Ishmael wrote:

Steve V. wrote:

Have you actually heard this record?

This record is total CRAP.

I'm pretty sure we can assume that he's heard it if he's listing it as one of his perfect albums.

Since we're on this road now- what can we assume is his favorite snack food? Other than Abba-Zabba.

Ishmael wrote:

sphincter wrote:

Ishmael wrote:

Steve V. wrote:

Have you actually heard this record?

This record is total CRAP.

I'm pretty sure we can assume that he's heard it if he's listing it as one of his perfect albums.

Since we're on this road now- what can we assume is his favorite snack food? Other than Abba-Zabba.

Crisps obviously...or Ritz crackers, same thing almost.

sphincter wrote:

Ishmael wrote:

Steve V. wrote:

Have you actually heard this record?

This record is total CRAP.

I'm pretty sure we can assume that he's heard it if he's listing it as one of his perfect albums.

I quite like that record, relaxing poppy stuff, really warm. Lyrics are almost funny in a strange way.

Thank you Sphincter.

This was a direct attempt at going commercial, and also marks the disintegration of the last of the Magic Band; that in itself, means that it is going to be radically different than the earlier stuff.

Now think about it...Captain Beefheart was still driving that big fucking truck. So there is a difference, but it is a good difference. It marks a change, but can also be a testament to the ability of Beefheart to be a well-rounded composer. This record is very good, in the same way Bluejeans and Moonbeams is a very good but different record. Expecting old Beef to make Trout Mask Replica four or five dozen more times would have meant he was a one-trick pony, which he surely was not.

Still has those jagged edges we expect from the Cappy, yet the songs are more elegant...don't forget he was also madly falling in love with his wife, which explains the love songs.

A perfect album. Really calm...in a Beefheart way.

Ten albums, mostly perfect:

Variations on a Theme by Om
Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers) by Wu-Tang Clan
Meditations by John W. Coltrane
The Perfect Prescription by Spacemen 3
Beaches and Canyons by Black Dice
Frigid Stars by Codeine
Sky's Run into the Sea by Growing
On the Beach by Neil Young
Live at Greenwhich Village by Albert Ayler
Blood on the Tracks by Bob Dylan.

trilonaut wrote:

Minotaur029 wrote:We're too sterlie to be dated.

Stanhope wrote:"You know how bars will re-live generations?...how are we gonna re-live this decade? How do we re-live this? In 30 years, come on down and re-live the fuckin'...'aughts ['00]....Come on down and just dress up like a normal guy in a normal shirt, with a normal haircut and look like the guy next to you with a baseball cap on...it'll be just like the '90s without any good music."

anything can date. there are always trends. we aren't "normal guys and gals in normal shirts and haircuts", this time period has fashions like any other. i think if anything the issue is not that this period is so "normal" or indistinct, it's that there is so much retro crap that the fashion is basically an ugly mishmash of recycled things from other decades.

one aesthetic that i do feel is distinctly of this decade is that really hideous intentionally clashing bright colors glam-nausea "heh heh it's so trashy" associated with crappy hipsters, "electro-clash", various noise bands, and bands like hella and lightning bolt. give me the stupid ransom note "extreme" typewriter typeface stuff of the 90s over this anyday. apparently this aesthetic was conceived by some kids at RISD... well, thumbs down.

i feel like this decade is some mutant version of the 80s plus internet and an even worse political situation.

I've noticed the hipsters taking on this like...ironic "wigger" culture as their own. They're like...hyperactive hipsters or something...perhaps products of an age of information abundance? It's like a really bad '80s period without a source you can put your finger on. They like Girl Talk and the most wildly overproduced shit. They're into like...genreless music...old timey fake bands with keyboards (Decemberist type stuff [I make a horrifically ugly face here]).

This is Pitchfork's fucking fault. The other Pitchfork-like sites still take their cues from this one. It's this Pitchfork culture that prevents kids from knowing that there are bands that can still bring the rock. Bands on the cutting edge of rock are ignored or are given somewhere from a 6.5 to a 7.9...the reviewers don't "get it," or can't differentiate it from similar albums...but they know it's "cool" so they give it an essentially neutral review, and it falls through the cracks.

Somehow from this, Architecture in Helsinki becomes cool. As for that process, I couldn't really tell ya how they get there...


In conclusion...how can a decade that is proving to just be a mish-mash of all the other decades (with an emphasis on the worst parts of the '80s) be dated? How will we relive this decade at the bar?


P.S.--The newest hot record? Feist. Have you heard Feist? Who gives a shit? BORING. Hot lady writes sackless songs. I think I can feel her nü-indie hipster ego seep out through her promo pictures.

At least Cat Power had heart (and occasionally cajones [and one spectacular album])...at least Joanna Newsom has talent (albeit an annoying, gimmicky talent)...Feist doesn't even touch either one of the aforementioned...a midget among the mediocre.

This decade has been amazing musically. Everyone has to be disapointed with their current time, the past was always better, whatever, I can't fucking keep up with how much good music that is constantly being released, the underground has become stupid, no-longer can anyone beam up on all the 'new crazy bands' because they're hitting left right and center. Sure that ends up diluting the stream, but so what, even if for every 1000 crap albums you only get one good one, you're still getting them more now than ever. Buy/download/borrow what you want, don't get what you don't want, there's something for everyone.

Because of all these cultures clashing and crashing into each other they mix, and the main culture, especially the underground gets cut up-there's isn't one main culture completely, I listen to Converge and MF Doom but I don't feel the need to wear all black and get tatts up my neck or wear baggy clothes and other hip-hop related items...so fucking what. For the people that want, this is a free decade full of great music. You want something to define it? How about the mainstream explosion of 'emo' or whatever you want to call it, there you go, that's everywhere and has been for a good time...it's a little like cock rock of the 80s.

And finally, you guys care more about clothes and fashion and whatnot than these scene kids you make fun of. You don't have to judge people because of what music they listen to or what clothes they wear. I have a friend who straightens his hair, I rip the piss out of him for it but I don't hold it against him. I leave that mainstream culture to the people who enjoy it, not everyone is into because pitchfork and MTV tell them too, some people just like that sort of thing...so what?

10 more of what I consider to be "perfect" albums:

Frank Zappa and the Mothers - Freak Out
Otis Redding - Otis Blue
The Band - Songs From Big Pink
Jonathan Richman and the Modern Lovers - The Modern Lovers
Lou Reed - Transformer
Patti Smith - Horses
Violent Femmes — Violent Femmes
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
A Tribe Called Quest - The Low End Theory
The Coup - Steal This Album

My FUCKING Top 10 records for the moment !
Not in any order...










Legacy Edition : With THAT extra DVD !!!!!!!!!!