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Ron Paul?

No way he will get the nomination
Total votes: 67 (64%)
He has a chance of the nomination, but he could never beat the Democrats
Total votes: 4 (4%)
Paul in '08!
Total votes: 33 (32%)
Total votes: 104

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

151 by NerblyBear_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote: his criticisms of the Fed and the IRS. You actually gave your support to the Fed and the IRS. I think you're wrong on both counts, but at least you're not ducking two of the cornerstone issues of Paul's campaign.


Uh, the rest of us chose not to duck those issues, either. I spent at least a thousand words explaining why I thought that it would be a horrible idea to get rid of the income tax.

I don't know why I'm even bothering, though. I'm done with this issue.
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Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

152 by big_dave_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:
NerblyBear wrote:Ron Paul's lack of popularity or media coverage have nothing to do with a Vast Media Conspiracy to drown out his voice.

Heh... if Ron Paul wasn't gaining popularity every week, all you liberal dinosaurs wouldn't be running around with your panties in a bunch. The Vast Media controls you. They must have sent out an emergency message to LiberalLand this week on whatever secret radio frequency you robots tune in on: "Go Attack Ron Paul. These Are Your Orders".

Look who showed up: Two Canadians and a guy from Wales, none of whom vote in this country. Andrew L. 's Siamese Twin Nihil. And a guy who drinks a 12 pack of coke a day and likes to fit 'balls deep' into sentences whenever possible.

Ron Paul is in big trouble with this crowd after him. :lol:


I like to think that I've played a small part in your shift to the right. No arseholes on the Vast Media Marxist lawn please, cheers.

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

153 by big_dave_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:
Johnny C wrote:
Rick Reuben wrote:Even if Paul's success is partially attributable to multiple voting, that still means he's popular.


Yes, with people who don't understand democracy.

Que? The reference is to on-line polls, not real elections. Even if some of these on-line polls do allow multiple votes from the same IP address ( most don't ), it still shows that Ron Paul's supporters are outworking Romney's or Rudy's.


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Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

154 by NerblyBear_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:
NerblyBear wrote:I don't know why I'm even bothering, though. I'm done with this issue.

Bother again when you have actually sorted out debt, trade deficits, tax rates, and fiat currency in your head. Come back ready to go balls deep.


Okay, will do, hombre. I did the same thing with 9/11, so I have a pretty good idea that i'll be just as successful on this issue.

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

155 by Johnny C_Archive
Rick Reuben wrote:The questions are also: Do you support a central bank controlled by private and foreign owners? Do you support fiat currency as mandated legal tender?


You've overlooked a question: is this nearly as important as Ron Paul makes it out to be?

And "foreign"? Look. I'm not going to kerble "vast banking conspiracy." I don't even know where I'd begin searching for the background to this. If anyone would kindly PM me the basic details of the rabbit hole I haven't bothered to dive into that would be great.

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

158 by o_d_m_Archive
Do you support a central bank controlled by private and foreign owners?

Private Banks, sure because there are technically no public ones to control the Fed.

Do foreign banks control the fed? The stats are a bit out of date, but as of 1997, the top eight shareholding banks were all U.S. owned. I'll freely admit this may have changed though. I've looked for more recent stats, but couldn't find them. But the federal reserve laws do not permit foreign banks and non-bank firms to own stock in the Fed. So it probably has not changed.

Chase Manhatten Bank
Citibank
Morgan Guaranty Trust Company
Fleet Bank
Bankers Trust
Bank of New York
Marine Midland Bank
Summit Bank.

Any of the above a foreign bank?

Do you support fiat currency as mandated legal tender?

Absolutely.
I can read all about how shitty the world was on the gold standard. And we have a whole lot more people around now than we did then. Plus, if you think about it, there is nothing intrinsically valuable about gold, other than it has a finite supply. Essentially it is only valuable because we have agreed it is. Kind of like our current monetary system. Except we can't print more I guess. But we make more babies, I just don't think there is enough gold backed currency to go around. Unless there are ginormous gold deposits I don't know about. But I'm sure the mining companies could destroy a lot more of the earth so we can have our paper backed by some metal that is shiny enough to be considered valuable.

Sorry to be so rude, its just late in the day.

Presidential Contender: Ron Paul

160 by NerblyBear_Archive
Johnny C wrote:At this point I almost want Ron Paul to get elected so his presidency can be disastrous enough that the entire world collectively says, "Let's not do that ever again."


Ha! If there's one thing to be learned from history, it's that people will continue to make the same mistakes over and over again.

I think we're living through just such a presidency right now. But that doesn't mean it won't happen again.
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