Madman Munt wrote:[Woah! That is the meanest bike in the thread. I would not like to mess with the rider of that bicycle!haha! It's just the bike. I'm easy like that Faith No More song which is not really a Faith No More song.This thread needs more recent PRF bike pictures!Still riding the fuck out of this bike. Now with a 13-28 cassette with top cogs being 13-14-15 which helps keeping my cadence to what want to be and thanks to obsolete and deeply unfashionable triple I have all the range I want even when the bike is loaded and carrying my fat ass up a hill (smallest ring at the front: 26T), and all of that at about 25% of a price of a 2*10 drive train.And here's one from may, back when the world had colours and sun:

Madman Munt wrote:as soon FSA gets their budget 46/30 chainset in the shopsWell, this never made it to the shops, tho I did see 'em on new bikes. Still can't get a cheap 46/30 double.

Me too, I'm so slow I'd be happy with 46*13 as the top gear. Looking at the gearing in some the bikes marketed as gravel/travel/adventure ones makes me scratch my head.

Out of curiosity I was looking for them too and couldn't find them, but I see them now on Polish ebay, listed as "FSA Omega ABS MegaExO" 46/30, priced at an equivalent of ~100 euro, so I guess they finally found their way to mass market.https://www.bike24.com/p2208747.html 6363 euro here (different model)My guess is those will be really popular on gravel bikes soon, or at least should be.

I've never seen one in stock that was not attached to a new bike. emmanuelle cunt wrote:My guess is those will be really popular on gravel bikes soon, or at least should be.Makes total sense even for most road riders. 46/30 or 48/32 is ideal for me.

Could you run a 50-34 in front and then the cassette from a SRAM 1x on the back, like 11-42?Or, here we go. Just force fit a mtn drivetrain on a gravel bike.http://365cycles.com/sram-gx-eagle-grou ... gLLpfD\_BwE32 in front, 10-50 in the back! But I hear you. I do a lot of mountain road riding on my Specialized Roubaix endurance bike. It goes down to 34x34, and many times I'm suffering in that gear and I'm not even carrying a load; just a couple water bottles and a minimal tool kit.

Verbs & Nouns wrote:emmanuelle cunt wrote:Me too, I'm so slow I'd be happy with 46*13 as the top gear. Looking at the gearing in some the bikes marketed as gravel/travel/adventure ones makes me scratch my head.As in too high or too low?Too high, or at least lacking on the low end. Vast majority of them is equipped with 50/34 cranks and 11-30/32 cassettes, sometimes even 11-28. It maybe fine for guys from Bike Radar, GCN and what not, but average Joe like me needs at least one gear below the 1:1 ratio on 700C wheels when faced an incline in a forest (roots, sand etc) or even a 13%+ one on tarmac on a loaded bike. There's a reason why MTB bikes gearing goes as low as it does. On the top end, cadence of 90 rpm on 50*11 with 700*38 tires is 53,8 km/h. I know there people who are able to go this fast but setting this as a standard is just ignoring the reality, especially for bikes with promo shots like this:I also seriously don't understand the Shimano logic regarding the road cranks. Putting the triples aside, we get 53/39, 52/36, 50/34 aaaand 46/34. Because everybody doing below 15km/h should get off the bike and run with it, like in cyclecorss.