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Posted: **Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:06 pm**

Sorry for the double post but the Forum isn't allowing me to edit it...

Posted: **Fri Jul 11, 2008 4:16 pm**

honeyisfunny wrote:Here's an update on the 'hoodie' attack and bag snatch mentioned a few posts ago.

My girlfriend got her bag and her purse back as explained.

She tried to phone the Police to tell them about it but we weren't given a crime number so the person she spoke to couldn't reference the incident.
We waited for the Police to come and take a statement from her and eventually the "five-o" copper called at 10.30 pm. He's either 12 hours late or we got confused and he meant PM all along. Doesn't matter.

Anyway, my housemate said to the policeman that she had gone home and that also she had a stroke of good fortune and had recovered her bag. He also suggested that they call her at home instead of going round there because, as explained by matt and others previously, having a police car outside your house isn't good for neighbourhood relations sometimes and obviously someone on her road had something to do with the incident so they'd know she'd gone to the Police.

So, the policeman calls up my girlfriend and tells her he knows she got the bag back and that he now thinks she has been lying to him. She explained what happened, that a neighbour had got it back for her and that's enough for her and that she doesn't know who the person is who helped her but she's grateful etc.
Obviously, she has more of an idea about it than that but the best way to show gratitude to someone who helped you is probably not to sent the Police to their house when they might be a bit 'dodgy' in the first place.

The Policeman keeps having a go at her and says he's coming round. My g/f says she would prefer to go to the station in the morning as she's about to go to bed (it's 11.30pm by now). His response to this was

"No you're not going to bed"

So he came round to her house in a police car. He basically gave her a load of shit and upset her and said she'd lied and she knew more than she was saying and he would get the guy who got the bag back. My g/f's housemate piped up and said
"Erm... what about getting the 2 guys who punched her in the face and stole it?"
And he shrugged it off as if to say he's not bothered about that anymore.

My g/f pointed out that she tried to tell them she'd found her bag but because they hadn't taken a statement or even registered the crime then she couldn't report it. He continued to get in her face and accuse her of lying.

And get this, he still didn't take a statement. So the crime is still not on their system or even being looked into but yet her receiving her own bag back is being looked into.

I'm saying she should complain to the Police officially.

This would be excellent on videotape.

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2008 2:22 am**

honeyisfunny wrote:I'm saying she should complain to the Police officially.

I agree. Perhaps it might be worth reading into it more, but I'm pretty sure that complaining to the IPCC is worthwhile - at the very least, it will cause some irritation to the annoying bastard involved and hence hopefully make his stupid annoying bastard brain think twice before it exercises itself in its usual fashion. If she wishes to do so, your girlfriend should write down the specifics of the complaint and think hard about how crap they've been to give it force. Also, this section on how complaints are investigated is worth looking at:

IPPC website wrote:If your complaint is recorded by the Professional Standards Department, a decision will be taken on how best to resolve your complaint. Most complaints made are dealt with locally by the police force concerned.

Local Resolution

Local Resolution is a simple and flexible way to resolve a complaint. Your complaint can only be dealt with by Local Resolution if you agree to this. If you decide to have your complaint dealt with by Local Resolution, a process to resolve your complaint will be agreed between you and the police. The Local Resolution of your complaint cannot lead to disciplinary proceedings against an individual police officer or member or staff. For more information see our Dealing with your complaint by Local Resolution(opens in a new window) information leaflet.

Police investigation

If your complaint is not suitable for Local Resolution or you do not agree to have your complaint resolved through Local Resolution, the Professional Standards Department will appoint an officer to investigate your complaint. The investigating officer will tell you how your complaint will be investigated, what co-operation they require from you, how a decision will be reached and what action will be taken at the end of the investigation.

I don't think people complain enough through official channels. One of the benefits of ponderous, inefficient bureaucracy is that once you get paper into the system, they need to deal with it.

The fact that they still have not taken a complaint is really very unprofessional. The fact that he has effectively verbally abused her is damning.

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:24 am**

Turns out a friend of mine is related to the man that killed the two French students. I heard some strange shit about it while chatting in my local. Details of which I'm sure will be in the press soon.

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2008 10:49 am**

GypsumFantastic wrote:Turns out a friend of mine is related to the man that killed the two French students. I heard some strange shit about it while chatting in my local. Details of which I'm sure will be in the press soon.

Fuck the press room, give us these details.

With regard complaining about the cops I wouldn't recommend it. At the very least the next time you need them, they won't come (I know they're kinda shit at this anyway). At the worst they'll fuck with you any and every chance they get.

I know its hard to swallow but your complaint really won't get anywhere and has every chance of backfiring on you.

Posted: **Tue Jul 15, 2008 11:10 am**

Heeby Jeeby wrote:
Fuck the press room, give us these details.

he's claiming that he was forced to do it or his wife and kids were going to be killed....... Truth? Lies? I don't know! I just went for a beer and got told this.

Posted: **Wed Jul 16, 2008 3:25 am**

man, the dude is crazy. he probably said that but it's probably not true.

unless it was a collar bomber type scenario...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collar_bomber

Posted: **Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:15 pm**

My girlfriend has just got back to our neigubourhood having been down to play in London earlier today and she got home to find police and ambulance crews outside her house as someone had been seriously attacked and stabbed almost on her front door.
What the fuck is going on?

Posted: **Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:31 pm**

What the hell?

Posted: **Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:40 pm**

burun wrote:What the hell?

Something is going on. Every day for the last week as well we've been having little bursts of firecrackers going off in the park at the back of where we live. It's not fireworks season though someone mentioned a long while ago that sometimes single fireworks are some kind of drug-related signal, something akin to shoes hanging from a lamp post etc. Sounds a bit too much like hard work for our local hoodlums but still, it's weird. Ditto for the sudden increase in sirens going off all hours of the day.
Our friendly criminal who got my g/f's bag back came round to speak to my g/f and her housemates and basically say he was fine that they went to the Police about it and they shouldn't worry about involving the Police as he did nothing wrong. He also said he'd been round to speak to the kids' parents and complained that he had got nowhere in talking to them and that something was going to happen sooner or later.
What weird times this neighbourhood is going through.
It's costing me a lot already in taxis.

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