John Turbo wrote:Josef K wrote:John Turbo wrote:Well done SNP.Now you wil have a Conservative minority government or coalition with likes of DUP governing the whole of the UK. You utter idiots.Murdoch and co is PROUD.Fuck off.Scotland returned ONE Conservative MP in 2010 and we've had 5 years of Conservative rule. Any party that wants to govern the UK needs to win England's votes. If you want to point the accusing finger start there.Oh so the Scottish verison of The Sun of doesnt back the SNP?Wake up please and acknowledge when you / we are being played off.I've never read the Sun, Scottish or otherwise. We're returning an unprecedented number of MPs to Westminster who at last are not shackled by a London party. Look at your friends and neighbours if you want to identify a target for your ire, because you're aiming in the wrong direction. Win England, win government. Labour fucked it and as usual the greedy majority in England choose Tory. Same as it ever was.

John Turbo wrote:Basic point is the SNP vote has helped Tory vote in the UK.You're a numpty.Exit poll Lab = 239 + SNP 57 = 296. Tory = 316 Labour have done so poorly in ENGLAND that they're beyond SNP help.Is that clearer now?

Just move to Scotland. Houses are cheap, you don't need to pay for water, you'll get free prescriptions and your kids won't have to pay to go to uni.

It's going to be a Tory/DUP/UKIP coalition of horror, innit?

John Turbo wrote:Well done SNP.Now you wil have a Conservative minority government or coalition with likes of DUP governing the whole of the UK. You utter idiots.Murdoch and co is PROUD.Sorry, how exactly is it the SNP's fault that Labour have an unelectable wet lettuce of a leader? Fucking bonkers thinking.

Not content with just that, they chose Jim Murphy as the leader of their Scottish branch. Labour have only themselves to blame for this result.

John Turbo wrote:SNP never was a 'left' wing party originally.And Labour used to be a socialist party. Times change.Free prescriptionsFree education Free care for the elderly Free waterTolls removed from bridgesRoad equivalent tariff for all commercial ferriesIf it looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck...

Who gives a fuck about the Sun? The pro-unionist papers in Scotland outsell the pro-nationalist papers by a significant margin in Scotland. I'm unsure as to what point you're trying to make.Labour are a fucking shambles, that's why they lost. Do something about other than whining. Even if Labour had won all 59 Scottish seats they still wouldn't have an overall majority.Edit - that was for Mr Turbo, not Mr K

I'm so sorry, guys. This is like your version of 2004. Fuck..

Josef K wrote:Win or lose Labour will have to treat the result as a catharsis, a time for introspection, reform and rebuilding. I know the accusing finger will be pointed at Scotland if Labour lose but we know that to govern the UK, Labour must win England. It may be patronising but I'm willing Labour to win because I feel that with them change is possible, they'll listen to Scotland and understand that Independence is inevitable and rather than stymie it, they'll support it.Pishful thinking, I'm afraid.