Is violence in Britain actually increasing?

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MrFood wrote:One of my students from last year is going to Nottingham University. She's quite a delicate little thing.

She asked me what Nottingham was like; 'it's alrght' I replied. 'You'll be fine'.

Oh dear.


From what I've been told, the student areas of Nottingham are fine. I live in a student area of Leeds and I feel (relatively) safe here. One good thing about students is their fondness for wandering the streets drunkenly late at night, or sitting in their front rooms drunk late at night. It's almost like a neighbourhood watch in that you're very rarely alone on the streets round there (apart from in summer, when it's coming like a ghost town). I used to have a lot of trouble explaining this to my dad, that I felt safer at night in inner-city Leeds where there were people around than in the small town where I grew up where after eleven the streets would be dark and deserted.

I always suspect these things are cyclical. If a few lads round Sneinton have reached the age (15-18) where they're at a loose end and feel the need to 'assert themselves', it's going to lead to an increase in trouble. Once they've fucked off/got bored/gone to the big house, and there's only their eleven year old sisters left around, it'll quiet down. For a bit. It's telling that Ms. Funny-Honey's neighbour has had a word with "their parents". It basically boils down to tough, stupid kids. I note also that the increase in trouble there seems to have coincided with the school holidays. It's a theory, anyway.

Some sort of beating was handed out at the end of my street last Thursday night; I came home around 10pm to find a police cordon. The victim had been set upon next to his house by a group of lads in a car, which made it sound as if he'd been targetted specifically, for a specific reason.

Sigh.
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daniel robert chapman wrote:
I always suspect these things are cyclical. If a few lads round Sneinton have reached the age (15-18) where they're at a loose end and feel the need to 'assert themselves', it's going to lead to an increase in trouble. Once they've fucked off/got bored/gone to the big house, and there's only their eleven year old sisters left around, it'll quiet down. For a bit. It's telling that Ms. Funny-Honey's neighbour has had a word with "their parents". It basically boils down to tough, stupid kids. I note also that the increase in trouble there seems to have coincided with the school holidays. It's a theory, anyway.


whilst i completely agree with the above, it's just annoying that the rest of the law-abiding residents of the neighbourhood have to 'ride it out' whilst a few little dipshits make life hell for everyone.
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gjhardwick wrote:whilst i completely agree with the above, it's just annoying that the rest of the law-abiding residents of the neighbourhood have to 'ride it out' whilst a few little dipshits make life hell for everyone.


You don't have to ride it out unless you decide that you don't want to be involved in improving matters. These things seldom seem to improve unless people stop tolerating it and take positive action to improve matters, and that usually involves a heap of voluntary work, youth workers etc.

You could always start a music workshop for would-be oiks or something. Or a lynch mob...
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Adam I wrote:
gjhardwick wrote:whilst i completely agree with the above, it's just annoying that the rest of the law-abiding residents of the neighbourhood have to 'ride it out' whilst a few little dipshits make life hell for everyone.


You don't have to ride it out unless you decide that you don't want to be involved in improving matters. These things seldom seem to improve unless people stop tolerating it and take positive action to improve matters, and that usually involves a heap of voluntary work, youth workers etc.

You could always start a music workshop for would-be oiks or something. Or a lynch mob...


i think the latter option would be appropriate as the kids/families that are causing the majority of the trouble are complete and utter scumbags. I somehow doubt they'd have even the slightest inclination to want to be involved in music workshops, basket weaving or whatever the latest Council incentive fad going was...
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Rimbaud III wrote:
Adam I wrote:You could always start a music workshop for would-be oiks or something. Or a lynch mob...


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George Lynch getting the kids into crazy licks and mad chops is a super idea.

Or he could just threaten them with his Beast From The East.


Sadly I think even Kerry King couldn't interest these little shits.
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The village I live in (Pumpherston) is significantly less violent now than it was when I was a kid. Stabbings, baseball bats and/or golf clubs to the head, glasgow smiles, folk running about the streets with machetes and samurai swords were all a regular, weekly sight about 10-15 years ago. As were bricks through windows, shops being set on fire*, shopkeepers being stabbed in the eye*, beatings with iron bars, petrol bombs and such.

It's all very calm now in comparison.

There does seem to be a worrying amount of random violence in England these days, and I offer my sympathy to anyone who has been caught up in it.

*These things have happened twice, but over one year in the early 90's.
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