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Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 11:38 am
by Sourmilk_Archive
We'd all be passed out in pans of lasagna?

Too republican...

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:30 pm
by Andrew_Archive
AlBStern wrote:
kerble wrote:none of this would have happened if Garfield was president.


if Garfield were president.

Nerbled.


Ha!

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:36 pm
by big_dave_Archive
newberry wrote:can we get back on track re: chomsky, folks?


I'll bite:

The Chomsky Hierarchy: Not crap as far as I understand it.
Syntactics: Not crap, but he is not the visionary that many people claim.
Universal Grammar: elements are brilliant, elements not so brilliant. His most important idea. Not Crap overall. A scientific/materialist approach to language? Yes please.
His personal politics: I don't pay as much attention as I do to his other stuff, he is snappy at times but overall he's pretty small-fry. I don't think he has said anything important himself.
His almost Ayn Rand-ish dismissal of philosophy, European thought and pretty much any idea outside of cheezy Yank rationalism, calling Saussere, Lacan, and others "charlatans": he can go fuck himself, or at least take a page out of the Zizek book and at least be funny when he dismisses books that he doesn't care to read.
His personality: Vile.

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:42 pm
by Dr Geek_Archive
Yeah, but he supports the official 9/11 myth, so, you know, screw him. Or something.

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 1:58 pm
by kerble_Archive
Andrew. wrote:
AlBStern wrote:
kerble wrote:none of this would have happened if Garfield was president.


if Garfield were president.

Nerbled.


Ha!



d'oh.

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:04 pm
by big_dave_Archive
The Pharcyde wrote:If I were President, if I were President
If I were President, IF I WERE PRESIDENT!
If I was President (what would you do?)
I would not carry, oh no spare change
I would just rearrange, the whole government structure
Cause there seems to be something that's
messing with the flucture of the money

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:07 pm
by Mazec_Archive
big_dave wrote:His personality: Vile.


I've never gotten much of an idea of what Chomsky's like on a personal basis. What is it about him that makes his personality vile?

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:14 pm
by big_dave_Archive
Mazec wrote:
big_dave wrote:His personality: Vile.


I've never gotten much of an idea of what Chomsky's like on a personal basis. What is it about him that makes his personality vile?


He is infamously acidic and arrogant. OK, I pushed the boat a little too far but it isn't hard to find quotes of him being Dick Chomsky.

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:15 pm
by Skronk_Archive
big_dave wrote:His almost Ayn Rand-ish dismissal of philosophy, European thought and pretty much any idea outside of cheezy Yank rationalism...


Can you elaborate on this?

Linguist - Author - Historian: Noam Chomsky

Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 2:58 pm
by Wood Goblin_Archive
Mazec wrote:
big_dave wrote:His personality: Vile.


I've never gotten much of an idea of what Chomsky's like on a personal basis. What is it about him that makes his personality vile?


A few years ago, The New Yorker published a long profile of him called "The Devil's Accountant." (Only the first few pages are available online, but they're worth reading.) He has a reputation for being a tyrant in the classroom, with absolutely no patience for dissent.

I remember it being a pretty interesting read, and in spite of the negative stuff shown in the excerpts online, it's not a hit piece.