Marsupialized wrote:Taco Bell Arena?
Come on now

You will remember that this sale of naming rights comes from the same university that features a bright blue football field.

Plus, the shade of blue was apparently mixed up in an alien test lab. No photo or television broadcast can do it justice. It is an unholy shade of blue found nowhere in God's creation. It is terrifying.

Anyway, the name "Taco Bell Arena" bugs me just slightly more than, say, "Wrigley Field" from an aesthetics viewpoint. Who cares? It bugs me more that the Yum! Brands headquarters are in Louisville, so the naming rights are really nothing more than a billboard. Keep in mind, too, that a substantial number of people had a real problem with Taco Bell and its tomatoes.

Hey! Marsupialized!

I might be off-base here, but something tells me that you'd be screaming "CHA-LU-PA!" late in the fourth quarter at the Rose Garden.

Confirm or deny!

Rick Reuben wrote:Somebody mentioned Jim Webb. Getting a white male with strong military credentials would be smart.

That was me. If Obama takes the nomination, $5 says that it'll be Webb. Wait, I don't have $5.

A can of pumpkin pie mix says it'll be Webb.

connor wrote:

Rick Reuben wrote:Somebody mentioned Jim Webb. Getting a white male with strong military credentials would be smart.

That was me. If Obama takes the nomination, $5 says that it'll be Webb. Wait, I don't have $5.

A can of pumpkin pie mix says it'll be Webb.

He's not getting the nomination, it's pretty clear

Marsupialized wrote:

connor wrote:

Rick Reuben wrote:Somebody mentioned Jim Webb. Getting a white male with strong military credentials would be smart.

That was me. If Obama takes the nomination, $5 says that it'll be Webb. Wait, I don't have $5.

A can of pumpkin pie mix says it'll be Webb.

He's not getting the nomination, it's pretty clear

I disagree. The dude's got a 50/50 shot. Look at all the money he's bringing in. Look at the sheer number of people actively donating money/time to help get him the nomination. Look at all the polls post-South Carolina and particularly post-Edwards dropping out.

The Iowa "momentum" was largely just hype. It's the real thing this time.

(Anyone else gag during the last debate when Hillary repeated her "it takes a Clinton to cleanup after a Bush" line?)

Obama will get close, but he has an uphill battle. He needs another week and doesn't have it.

Also, HRC doesn't have to win outright to win.

There is a chance that neither candidate gets enough delegates to win outright.

In which case HRC wins. She 'won' MI and FL, and the superdelegates will note that in a big way.

Also, HRC/Obama will be the ticket if she wins, rather than Obama/Not Clinton (which is just as sure a thing). HRC/Obama is a great ticket for a lot of reasons, and unless Obama flat-out wins, that is what will be put together if something has to be put together.

I think the Clintons committed to putting Obama on the ticket before they started the whole disgusting mess that preceding the S.C. vote.

They could basically say anything about Obama, as long as it helps HRC win, b/c the minute he's running for VP, everyone (like me) who is totally grossed out by them is immediately OK with the ticket. Smart politically, though the execution was offensive and backfired on them as it should have.

tmidgett wrote:They could basically say anything about Obama, as long as it helps HRC win, b/c the minute he's running for VP, everyone (like me) who is totally grossed out by them is immediately OK with the ticket. Smart politically, though the execution was offensive and backfired on them as it should have.

I just hate to think of how Obama would likely be completely shut-out of such an administration. I'm not a big fan of the Clintons.

Obama's got a good strategy here. He's moving up in the Super Tuesday states and already looking ahead in the rest. I'm pretty surprised that more major media outlets didn't pick up on this story. El Piolín is the most widely-listened to radio show in the country (more than Stern or Limbaugh) and a couple of days ago, they had Ted Kennedy on who spent the entire time heaping praise upon Obama (and himself). El Piolín is the show that organized the May 1 immigration protests. Plus, the endorsement of the LA Times and La Opinion point to a very, very possible California win (he's only 3 pts down there).

If Obama wins California, I bet he can get the nomination.

connor wrote:

tmidgett wrote:They could basically say anything about Obama, as long as it helps HRC win, b/c the minute he's running for VP, everyone (like me) who is totally grossed out by them is immediately OK with the ticket. Smart politically, though the execution was offensive and backfired on them as it should have.

I just hate to think of how Obama would likely be completely shut-out of such an administration. I'm not a big fan of the Clintons.

Obama's got a good strategy here. He's moving up in the Super Tuesday states and already looking ahead in the rest. I'm pretty surprised that more major media outlets didn't pick up on this story. El Piolín is the most widely-listened to radio show in the country (more than Stern or Limbaugh) and a couple of days ago, they had Ted Kennedy on who spent the entire time heaping praise upon Obama (and himself). El Piolín is the show that organized the May 1 immigration protests. Plus, the endorsement of the LA Times and La Opinion point to a very, very possible California win (he's only 3 pts down there).

If Obama wins California, I bet he can get the nomination.

You know, I looked at Ob's sched the last few days and coming days, and I looked at the map, and I thought about how they award delegates....

He has a shot.

He is using a pretty advanced strategy.

Most delegates are 'district delegates,' awarded proportional to vote in a particular congressional district. The rest are statewide delegates, awarded proportional to statewide vote. Then there are the superdelegates.

Forget the superdelegates. Not that they aren't important, but they're only VERY important if no one has any momentum getting close to the convention.

Statewide delegates will be a wash in any states closer than 10pts. So you win by 8pts, 54-46. As I understand it, you split the statewide delegates. Merry Christmas, you might as well have won by 0.0001pct.

This is how Obama 'lost' NV and got more delegates than HRC anyway.

District delegates are where the action is.

Obama is angling to beat HRC badly in particular districts. That is why he is spending time in Idaho, Minnesota, and the like. It is totally possible that he will 'lose' notably more states than HRC but beat her by badly enough in certain districts he wants to win that he will be even or better in the delegate count.

And if he gets past Super Tuesday, and they're still pretty close in delegate count, he has MUCH more time to make his case to the remaining districts and (less importantly) states that matter.

People know HRC. She needs not just a return of her prev support but new support. Good luck--she will get this support only from people who have given up trying to decide, not so much from people who are suddenly totally into her after all these years. She's a totally known qty, and she can't get over 44-45pct in national polls.

People w/o a direct interest in politics don't even know Obama yet, and in general the more people see him, the more they like him. Even if they don't agree with his positions all the time. He has time after Tuesday if he can just keep HRC from getting too close to the magic number.

It's going to be a very interesting night on 5 Feb.

Yeah, I think this is definitely the strategy. And hey: it could work. Plus his national numbers keep going up. So if he's got the most delegates, no matter how slight the lead, and national support, Clinton's people will have little room to argue.

Wait, Hillary has apparently "teared up" again...

P.S. I just some some New Yorker being interviewed about why she's supporting Hillary. "I just think a woman won't go around starting wars and stuff like a man does."

Last night I had a dream that Obama got elected, was a cool dream

Seeing as how this primary is unfolding, I would like to see Obama win the nomination. I don't know who'd make a better president, him or Hillary, but he's the only one out of all the candidates (from both sides) that symbolizes actual change and the only one who was against the war from the beginning (even though he chickened out and voted for refunding).

It's an exciting election... but to be honest, anybody could run after George Bush's 8 Years of Failure and make it exciting. Too bad it didn't involved Gore and Edwards was ignored by the media (except for his hair).