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In developing his theory of flow, Csikszentmihalyi spoke with surgeons, pro basketball players, speed-chess champions, musicians, and others. All of these folks make lightning-fast decisions while performing their craft. Certainly these decisions involve cognition, but in that state these people are unhesitating and fully committed to the moment (and at the same time it's possible to have the clarity to, as you say, make a grocery list simoultaneously, if that helps keep the brain away from either boredom or anxiety -- the effortlessness is the main point).
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Flaneur wrote:"Going for It" means being in a state of Flow.

From Wikipedia:
[Mihaly] Csikszentmihalyi identifies the following as accompanying an experience of flow:

1. Clear goals (expectations and rules are discernible and goals are attainable and align appropriately with one's skill set and abilities).

2. Concentrating and focusing, a high degree of concentration on a limited field (a person engaged in the activity will have the opportunity to focus and to delve deeply into it).

3. A loss of the feeling of self-consciousness, the merging of action and awareness.

4. Distorted sense of time, one's subjective experience of time is altered.

5. Direct and immediate feedback (successes and failures in the course of the activity are apparent, so that behavior can be adjusted as needed).

6. Balance between ability level and challenge (the activity is neither too easy nor too difficult).

7. A sense of personal control over the situation or activity.

8. The activity is intrinsically rewarding, so there is an effortlessness of action.

9. People become absorbed in their activity, and focus of awareness is narrowed down to the activity itself, action awareness merging(Csikszentmihalyi, 1975. p.72).


The members of Umphrey's McGee may experience this state as well, but these elements are part of what is captured in those Complete performances.



It seems like an infantile state of narcissism. They are narcissisticly amused.
The thinking proces is not actualy suppressed. :)

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I think Complete reached a different level of "FloP if you will adhere to my drift. It wasnt a lightning fast "flow" but more a flow of expressions reflecting their limitations were in terms of their musicianly tendencies, their emotional vibe continuum, and daresay I not even their very lives. Some sadness and humor or perhaps not in hehere if you want it.
Yes Complete performed an experience at us, if such. And yet agisn they even may, perhaps. But what of it? Let the knaves bray.

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Ty Webb wrote:Brain-damaged people are 100% really, really into making little mountains out of their mashed potatoes. And no one's mashed potato mountains are quite like their mashed potato mountains. Their exuberance when they dig in their hands, gravy be damned, is invigorating in its childlike purity.

But they're still brain-damaged, and it's still a mound of white mush.

This thread is what happens when people listen to too much punk.



I think i'm along the same lines as yourself. I could understand how some people could enjoy it for the passion and enthusiasm put in and learn to like the music from that perspective. However, i'd rather shake their hand and then not have to listen to them.
- Andy

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Interviewer - "Ahh, tell us about the name Complete, where did the name come from? I know you put it together, or something.."

Curtis - "Mark here originally started it an er, we wanted to form an original band, that's like nothin else, you know like a lot of bands that are '70s and '80's..so ah, we took our initials..first initials. I'm Curtis, which is a C, O, M is Mark, P is Peter then Todd which makes Complete. Basically the initials is how we did it."

Todd - "They're in the band name, all them initials are in the band name Complete."

I'm sorry, I've put this off for aaaages. Wow. :shock:
Tom wrote: I remember going in the back and seeing him headbanging to Big Black. He looked like he was raping the air- really. He had this look on his face like, "yeah air... you know you want it.".

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