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box of socks wrote:Sucks for Sonic Youth that literally no one I know went to their Clear Channel show here in 2004. (Our local CC place also happens to suck horribly as a venue compared to the three or four other places of comparable size and booking tendencies that we fortunately do still have in this town, but that's yet another story.)

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box of socks wrote:

DregsInTheCrowd wrote:So glad I am to steal from such legendary favorite band of mine, regardless of their need for the monies!

I'm going to buy the album when it comes out, as I always do. Sonic Youth are more than welcome to $16 or so from me once or twice a year, as they have been for years, and since you mention "need for the monies" I assure you that my income is not and never will be anywhere near what theirs is, but I value what they do and am happy to pay them for it. I just wanted to hear the songs ASAP. Chill.

Understood. Perhaps I was more than a bit rash. Gentlemen, my apologies. I'm glad to hear the enthusiastic response to the record.

Whoops...I realized today I downloaded a version of the album that was all EQ'ed in the red, hence the shitty sound and why I didnt like the album as much.

Its really not that bad actually, but Kim's voice/the cheese riffs can get a bit straining.

So in conclusion, album leaks can suck cause you might be getting a lesser quality product. I DLed the actual thing, and its much better. I have always bought the album for Sonic Youth, even if I heard it leaked. I own all of their major records (the main ones except the SYRs), actually.

- Chet

Really like it.
The most noticable thing is the clean to distored guitar ratio is way up.
There is still a bit sonic youth noise on it, just no where near as much as previous records.

Really like the guitar work on it.
sorry to ask such a dim question, but can i hear a hint of auto-tune on Turquoise boy?

Alright, I'm a huge Sonic Youth fan. I thought there were some really great moments on Sonic Nurse and Murray Street (though this record isn't the classic that most people will have you believe). I really dig the classic 80s trilogy of EVOL, Sister, and Daydream Nation. I thought Goo, Dirty, and EJSTNS were all damn good records, with some questionable moments. My favorite is Washing Machine, which might not be a popular pick, but I think that this record is a complete masterpiece.
Anyway, I'm familiar with all of their records, and I think the new record is the weakest, most boring thing they've ever done. I find the songwriting to be totally unadventurous, I swear that Kim's vocals are auto-tuned to glossy shit, and the melodies are unmemorable. Some of my favorite songs by the Youth are their quieter moments, so that has nothing to do with my dislike for this record.
I'm just really sick of rock bands getting all mellow and boring as they age. Even the moments I disliked on previous SY releases were always interesting. I'd rather they made another fucking NYC Ghosts and Flowers than this pile of dung. At least that record had character.
This didn't happen to all classical composers. Beethoven, Wagner, Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich, Mahler...they all got more far out and twisted as they became older.
Hell, the stuff Miles Davis was doing at the age of 40 was heavier and darker than anything he'd done up to that point.
I'm completely surprised that no one else on this forum (except for irony engine) has commented negatively on this record. Maybe I'm just crazy, I don't know.

haven't heard any single song ... but I read some comments about being too poppie and I think thats not too flatering for a band as adventorous (sic) as Sonic Youth

I also think its pretty dreary - loved Sonic Nurse, but this I'm just bored of listening to already. Its almost as lack-lustre as her acting in 'The Last Days'..

dadelman wrote:Alright, I'm a huge Sonic Youth fan. I thought there were some really great moments on Sonic Nurse and Murray Street (though this record isn't the classic that most people will have you believe). I really dig the classic 80s trilogy of EVOL, Sister, and Daydream Nation. I thought Goo, Dirty, and EJSTNS were all damn good records, with some questionable moments. My favorite is Washing Machine, which might not be a popular pick, but I think that this record is a complete masterpiece.
Anyway, I'm familiar with all of their records, and I think the new record is the weakest, most boring thing they've ever done. I find the songwriting to be totally unadventurous, I swear that Kim's vocals are auto-tuned to glossy shit, and the melodies are unmemorable. Some of my favorite songs by the Youth are their quieter moments, so that has nothing to do with my dislike for this record.
I'm just really sick of rock bands getting all mellow and boring as they age. Even the moments I disliked on previous SY releases were always interesting. I'd rather they made another fucking NYC Ghosts and Flowers than this pile of dung. At least that record had character.
This didn't happen to all classical composers. Beethoven, Wagner, Tchaikovsky, Shostakovich, Mahler...they all got more far out and twisted as they became older.
Hell, the stuff Miles Davis was doing at the age of 40 was heavier and darker than anything he'd done up to that point.
I'm completely surprised that no one else on this forum (except for irony engine) has commented negatively on this record. Maybe I'm just crazy, I don't know.

I agree with you on this. This album isn't bad, it's just boring and not very much different from the last two albums, although Murray Street and Nurse do have their moments. I've listened to it more than a few times now to make sure I'm not missing anything but it just sounds like dull easy-listening music to me.

emmanuelle cunt wrote:i'm waiting for the cd. i heard some very negative opinions so im a bit worried. btw, mark ibold (ex pavement) is probably going to play bass on the upcoming tour.

Why would Mark Ibold play bass? Sonic is a four piece again. Jim went on to pursuing film... Kim is back on bass. If you mean to fill in for tracks they wrote as a five-piece that may be true.

ibold is a killer bass player and so underrated it's depressing.

circusking wrote:

emmanuelle cunt wrote:i'm waiting for the cd. i heard some very negative opinions so im a bit worried. btw, mark ibold (ex pavement) is probably going to play bass on the upcoming tour.

Why would Mark Ibold play bass? Sonic is a four piece again. Jim went on to pursuing film... Kim is back on bass. If you mean to fill in for tracks they wrote as a five-piece that may be true.

ibold is a killer bass player and so underrated it's depressing.

According to the SY website he is for the summer tour, I believe.

The album so far is okay but not really breaking new ground.