BadComrade wrote:The advent of home recording has allowed for far more children in the adult pool, and they're all pissing in it.

I wanted to use this as my signature, too. But considering I have a link to some of my own demo songs from My Space in my signature, adding that would simply be begging for ridicule.

Excellent, excellent quote though...

tommydski wrote:that's exactly what i posted on the other forum.
but then i could only name like ten.

Right.

Keep looking.

It's just absurd to say "There is no good music anymore"

as long as the people who were involved in the "old music" you like are still alive, and still involved in making music, or involved in helping other people make music, or people they support or influenced by those bands that you like are making music, there will always be good music.

and if you get tired of "indie rock" or whatever you grew up on, there's some acid bossanova combo in a basement in Brazil or some guy in the African veldt beating on a hollow log, and maybe if you ever heard them, they'd blow your fckn mind. But they've never cut a record...

I'm not going to list bands because the question is cynical and absurd.

hiredgeek wrote:I think the ease and accessibility of recording, posting, and putting music out has flooded the everything with a bunch of mediocre, uninteresting, self indulgent, tasteless, mind numbing, god awful, senseless crap.

I agree, but if myspace and all the bands on it blew up on Thursday, that wouldn't increase the amount of good music that exists, and long term, it would decrease it. As bad as the middle 80 percentiles tend to be, some of the bands in the top 10 percentiles definitely began there, and killing the glut would have killed them off, too.

We must endure the glut and use better maps ( not Pitchfork, usually, but I've found stuff I liked through Pitchfork and myspace and garageband, etc. ).

Theoretically, any accurate study ( which can't actually exist, since we're talking about opinions ) should prove that cheap to free recording has made this the richest era of musical quality ever.

But having said that, I haven't bought more than three new releases in any of the past five years, when I used to buy something almost weekly before the internet exploded, and I only see a show every month, because there are too many bands to keep track of or care about. So it is a bad time economically to sell music or play shows, but not to make music.

gio wrote:I'm not going to list bands because the question is cynical and absurd.

fair enough, good sir. but i think walking examples put such questions to rest quicker than anything.

Dammit, nobody has mentioned Konono No 1 yet.

There. Konono No 1. Check it.

Pierre Bastien is pretty fucking incredible too. some of his records are amazing.

BadComrade wrote:The advent of home recording has allowed for far more children in the adult pool, and they're all pissing in it.

I was having a conversation with my wife the other day about this exact topic, and basically came to the same conclusion that you did BadComrade.

I would like to add that the internet, on top of home recording, has ruined music. You go on purevolume, or myspace (ag!), and for every style of music you try and find stuff, there's 50,000 bands that absolutely suck brick and would've never made it out of their mother's garage save for the internet.

And I would also contend that the chances of any new group of any genre having an impact on culture/politics/anything is virtually nonexistent. I know almost everything I listen to now is 10+ years old.

Someone mentioned Calexico earlier. That is an exception that I would agree to as well, but still....no real impact.



I don't think the pool can be rechlorinated.

sorry for the length and shitness but i got bored and blooged a little the other day, here is a small snippet

"Bands. Who actually like bands? I don't. I especially don't like watching bands play 'live concerts' in poorly designed venues filled with ignorant 'music lovers', cocksure 'promoters' and useless 'sound engineers'.



I also have no time for music charts. Let's face it, there's nothing special about getting a chart postion anymore with the old downloading digital age. W hat if you're an 'artiste' who puts out a record but has no knowledge of digital formats and has no label? How are you to compete with download only songs that can get to number 1 simply because alot of people clicked a mouse a lot of times? Isn't that like fixing an election or something? And, who are all these people moaning about that Shane bloke off X Factor still being at number 2 in the charts? More importantly, who are all these people paying money for the cds and the downloads of his songs? This is what worries me. I don't really know anyone who buys stuff that charts but the law of probablility says that I surely must.{....}So, after scanning the Observer music monthly and hearing my mothers remarks about Shane X Factors latest chart postion and watching totaly shit girl band programme Totally Frank and watching them dance around their implausibly cool flat singing along to Kaiser Cheifs predicting riots wearing clever throwback to the early 90's trend of retro 70's t-shirts with cute slogans...I...have...to...wonder when it all started to become so banal and easy. Why is it so bloody easy to...do...stuff? Here's an idea, write a set, get a boy backing band, film your basement concerts, stream them onto something like MySpace, do this nightly for a fortnight-perhaps throw in a matinee for the tweens and pretty soon, Sony/BMG or similar will send out a cool hunter (or perhaps they're called something more discreet and...cooler these days) to the gigs, sign you and then press your record which will already be a big seller because you will have won over a small army of fans who will (one hopes) race out to buy the real thing with inlay and lyrics and stuff to not least commemorate being a part of the machine that helped get it pressed in the first place. Obviously in the 'thank you's, the special cyber-community will get what would previously have been God's ranking, right up there with a 'first, none of this would be possible without ...MySpace, Tom...' and so on.. "

unarmedman wrote:

BadComrade wrote:The advent of home recording has allowed for far more children in the adult pool, and they're all pissing in it.

I was having a conversation with my wife the other day about this exact topic, and basically came to the same conclusion that you did BadComrade.

I would like to add that the internet, on top of home recording, has ruined music. You go on purevolume, or myspace (ag!), and for every style of music you try and find stuff, there's 50,000 bands that absolutely suck brick and would've never made it out of their mother's garage save for the internet.

And I would also contend that the chances of any new group of any genre having an impact on culture/politics/anything is virtually nonexistent. I know almost everything I listen to now is 10+ years old.

Someone mentioned Calexico earlier. That is an exception that I would agree to as well, but still....no real impact.



I don't think the pool can be rechlorinated.

that too

fantasmatical thorr wrote:Obviously in the 'thank you's, the special cyber-community will get what would previously have been God's ranking, right up there with a 'first, none of this would be possible without ...MySpace, Tom...' and so on.. "

Wunderbar!

This is great, seriously - I'll have to remember this quote!