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Prince and Pods are acceptable on this board?

CYA.

PODs rule balls for at-home practicing, and recording demos.

For everything else, I would use a real amp.

BadComrade wrote:Wire use Line 6 Pods all over the last 2 eps and the album they put out, and they sound cool as fuck.

I thought that was a joke. I've not heard the last couple records...

I use digital processors but not the pod I have a Korg A3 (a older POD rack type unit that gets tons of use in my home studio) and a Korg Pandora. I find them very useful due to their swiss army knife kind of abilities. I find the Pandora great for practicing or doing a small show (as it is the size of one stomp box. I use a couple of distortion stomp boxes in front of it as I prefer the sound of the stomp boxes for better distortion because they are a bit more extreme.

I recently saw a cover band where the guitar player had a Pod Racked with the foot controller and a PA style amp racked with it as well he had a kind of PA speaker cab. During the evening they played a dozen styles of music and his guitar sounded amazing throughout and his volume level dynamics within the band was consistent.

At one point they played the Beatles song "Something" and he had a perfect sounding Leslie lead (this was after a spot on sounding Led Zepplin song). What I noticed was that the guitar sound was really like a record perfect sounding the Leslie sounded like it was miked by recording engineers and the Zep sounds also sounded like a premo Marshall maxed. The good part was that the guitar player could switch between all these sounds the bad part I guess was that if he did have a Marshall it would have been too loud but would have been present in the room dynamics as with the Leslie they sounded like they were in a different ambient space than the bar. Like he had a really long guitar cord that ran to a recording studio somewhere and that was being sent back to the speakers.

I guess if you were a Pro band people would not detect anything because those bands have that sound on large stage I think if you wanted something rattyer or nasty you could program it, I do that with the Pandora and it makes all kinds of goofy sounds that are available to anyone who wants to tweek it the effects and levels, most gear have presets that are displaying sounds that are a bit more generic which I think is what most people would desire. I have a friend who does soundtrack work who uses a POD all the time for the versatility.

I have a friend who paid over 10K recently for a 60's Plexi and a couple of grand more for a Uni-Vibe in mint shape, they do sound amazing but I would be afraid to bring something that expensive to a gig as I could not replace it and for the price I would rather take a vacation, buy a car, spend a week recording at Electrical.

I've used Line6 stuff for years (BASS POD XT & VETTA for GUITARS) ... unsuccessfully. Never get something I liked from them (especially for the bass). You have the grain of the amp... but the dynamic is completly squashed, don't know why and I you like "fast" sound do use them.

I think they are good for things like Deftones, very "muddy" sounds [despite I love Deftones].


No we have Ampeg & Orange and we are much happier with them.
.... but the best thing is (imo) to go to a store , try it (perhaps several times) and if you like go for it.

Hope it helps in a way.
/Nick

[ps: sorry for my English]

BadComrade wrote:Are guitars crap because Bon Jovi play guitars? If so, let me find you a good techno message board...

Why don't you have a "Pod" avatar?

garble wrote:

BadComrade wrote:Wire use Line 6 Pods all over the last 2 eps and the album they put out, and they sound cool as fuck.

I thought that was a joke. I've not heard the last couple records...

However, the Wire sounds are heavily processed and EQd post-POD. I love Send and the Read and Burn EPs. I have a POD. I can't get those sounds on the POD without some serious pre or post signal manipulation.

I love the seriously comb-filtered, crazy compressed and noise-gated modern Wire guitar sound, but I also like the old stuff too.

Basically, if you're a good and creative musician, you can really use anything and make something good and memorable.

Cheers!
Ben Adrian

Is there an alternative to the Pod, something that does this modeling-digital processing and roasting?

Anybody use a computer as a "stompbox"?

I have played my guitar through the MOTU and into Live-GarageBand-DigitalPerformer-Soundtrack and it sounds fucked up and kinda cool. I mean it's not a Hiwatt or a Traynor, but it is kinda neat in some kind of robotic computery way.

I remember some band (was it Medicine) where the guitarist used a Portastudio 4-track as the stompbox. If I recall it was an immense sound live..

you have Amplitube 2, and Guitar Rig. they work so you can use the pc as a stompbox.
the guitar rig models are great.

The stomp boxes of Boss and Kord have modeling technology called COSM and REMS I like the Korg better due to my fondness for old Korg gear. Digitech also has some kind of modeling used in like the Jimmy Hendrix pedal and their stomp box line as well as Line 6 I use some Tech 21 gear which I believe were the first doing modeling with the Sans Amp which is nice. I think in software and hardware Modeling is pretty much the current rage.

At some point there will be a computer laptop - notepad type thing that is built to military standards and is built to be used by musicians on stage. I have done "live processing" with mine at some live "art space type" shows with a Korg Microcontrol keyboard and am always conserned about how fragile everything is including the hard drive for road usage on a stage with beer and microphone lights and such.

The Pod seems to have a lot going for it, it is hardware like a microwave as opposed to a computer no problem with internal hard drive issues. I think this is why most stage samplers use memory cards.

The way modeling is going one day people will be setting their variaxe to Travers Beane, and POD to a Albini setting with modled Harmonic Perculator with ribbon miked 4 x 12 cabinet.