Premier Rock Forum

a monkey can make "music"/loops/beats/sequences/blips/bleeps/burps on a laptop

CRAP

interesting vocal phrasing, but a one trick pony....not enough to compensate for the unrelenting blip/bleep/blurp

CRAP

Angus Jung wrote:I have gone back and listened to "Vespertine" a few times recently. There are many incredible songs on this record.

This man speaks the truth! Love that record.

nullpointerexception wrote:a monkey can make "music"/loops/beats/sequences/blips/bleeps/burps on a laptop

CRAP

interesting vocal phrasing, but a one trick pony....not enough to compensate for the unrelenting blip/bleep/blurp

CRAP

Uh oh, I think we may have a Philistine in our midst... http://www.bartleby.com/61/66/P0246600.html

i need to listen to medulla -- the concept is interesting, and the few tracks i heard were good.

i like bjork, and i had a phase of fairly heavy bjork rotation. some of her songs made me kinda emo.

but, sometimes an aggressively unique/recognizable voice with an image and cult of personality attached to it can grow old. for instance, i'm kind of tired of mike patton -- i don't think i've heard anything good from him since the ep with DEP. bjork is so bjorky it's distracting from just enjoying a song.

thyklopth wrote:

nullpointerexception wrote:a monkey can make "music"/loops/beats/sequences/blips/bleeps/burps on a laptop

CRAP

interesting vocal phrasing, but a one trick pony....not enough to compensate for the unrelenting blip/bleep/blurp

CRAP

Uh oh, I think we may have a Philistine in our midst... http://www.bartleby.com/61/66/P0246600.html

yea, i get alot of that, i am used to it
however, i stand by what i said.
C-R-A-P

I love Björk!

She makes unusual, original music, incorporates a huge number of different sounds and genres in an interesting fashion, has an amazing voice, and somehow manages to be extremely successful at it!

And when she made an acappella album, she involved an actual choral sensibility (which I, as a choral singer, really appreciate - check "Submarine") as well as experimenting with unusual sounds.

On top of that, she's an adorable pixie who sings with the orcas!

Björk wrote:While you are away
My heart comes undone
Slowly unravels
In a ball of yarn
The devil collects it
With a grin
Our love
In a ball of yarn

He'll never return it

So when you come back
We'll have to make new love

nullpointerexception wrote:

thyklopth wrote:

nullpointerexception wrote:a monkey can make "music"/loops/beats/sequences/blips/bleeps/burps on a laptop

CRAP

interesting vocal phrasing, but a one trick pony....not enough to compensate for the unrelenting blip/bleep/blurp

CRAP

Uh oh, I think we may have a Philistine in our midst... http://www.bartleby.com/61/66/P0246600.html

yea, i get alot of that, i am used to it
however, i stand by what i said.
C-R-A-P

Can you make blurps as good as Björk's? I assume you have more musical talent than a monkey, neh? So, since it is apparently monkey-simple, I would like to see your blips.

"I don't like this music!" is one thing, but unrelenting ignorance as to the process of production is entirely another, more distasteful thing.

Not crap.

She has created a world of her own. Björk is dreamy. And funky, when she feels like it.

K.U.K.L/Sugercubes were, as noted, pretty good as well.

Antero wrote:I love Björk!

She makes unusual, original music, incorporates a huge number of different sounds and genres in an interesting fashion, has an amazing voice, and somehow manages to be extremely successful at it!

And when she made an acappella album, she involved an actual choral sensibility (which I, as a choral singer, really appreciate - check "Submarine") as well as experimenting with unusual sounds.

On top of that, she's an adorable pixie who sings with the orcas!

Björk wrote:While you are away
My heart comes undone
Slowly unravels
In a ball of yarn
The devil collects it
With a grin
Our love
In a ball of yarn

He'll never return it

So when you come back
We'll have to make new love

nullpointerexception wrote:

thyklopth wrote:

nullpointerexception wrote:a monkey can make "music"/loops/beats/sequences/blips/bleeps/burps on a laptop

CRAP

interesting vocal phrasing, but a one trick pony....not enough to compensate for the unrelenting blip/bleep/blurp

CRAP

Uh oh, I think we may have a Philistine in our midst... http://www.bartleby.com/61/66/P0246600.html

yea, i get alot of that, i am used to it
however, i stand by what i said.
C-R-A-P

Can you make blurps as good as Björk's? I assume you have more musical talent than a monkey, neh? So, since it is apparently monkey-simple, I would like to see your blips.

"I don't like this music!" is one thing, but unrelenting ignorance as to the process of production is entirely another, more distasteful thing.

funny you should say that....

tell you what, you can prove it to yourself, just like i did

download an eval copy of Reason http://www.propellerheads.se/ play with it for an afternoon. get 32 tracks of beats/blips/blurps running, then selectively solo/mute groups as you see fit.

i did just this about a year ago........for the first hour or two, i was most pleased with myself. however, upon further analysis, i had an epiphany: i made this music by purely fucking around with patterns and waveforms expressed in a graphical domain. no musicianship was required. anybody can do it, really.....hence the monkey statement.

taking this a step further, this form of music has completely removed the soul and humanity of an art form.

think about it.

i realize i come off as smug and arrogant. i admit it. but everything i say is backed by real knowledge or experience. i admit that i am 100% ignorant on many topics, and will admit so freely (politics and world history are two such areas). but i do know music. i REALLY know music. and this isnt music, its source code.

Guitar music is more than plucking strings and electromagnetics and whatnot. Björk's music is more than laptops and source code and Reason.

I dislike a lot of "laptop music", but if you fail to see this simple point than you REALLY don't know music.

nullpointerexception wrote:i REALLY know music. and this isnt music, its source code.

Then demand you get the fuck back to the axe section of the Guitar Center where you work, and don't let them schedule you in the synth & software section. Jesus Christ.