fedaykin13 wrote:Have any of you that say the drunk driving laws are too harsh been charged with them?

I don't think they are too harsh
and I was charged with a DUI

it sucked
it cost me a ton of money
and hell yeah its harsh
but ya know what
i will never ever make the mistake again
ever
there are plenty of things you can do to avoid driving under the influence
walk, take a cab, wait til your sober
there is no excuse

Marsupialized wrote:Kenoki, are you saying it's a good thing that because of this delusional panic over 'drunk driving' that has swept over the country thousands of otherwise decent normal humans not fucking with anyone have their lives and finances ruined because they went to a bar one night and had a few drinks with their friends then drove home like EVERYONE on the planet does from time to time?

The penalties if you kill or injure someone while driving drunk are SEVERE as it is. You are going to prison for a long time if you hurt or kill someone while drunk driving, that's fine. Keep it that way, shit increase those if you people are so gung ho on destroying people who make stupid mistakes once and awhile.
But to be pulling people out of their cars and into jail in the middle of the night because the fucking test the cops created themselves says they had half a beer too many? Or smoked a joint last week?
That's some fucked up shit right there, right up there on the insanity meter next to throwing someone in prison for having weed in their pocket.

I have a good friend who blew one tiny point above their ever lowering limit one night at 3am after a show, this was almost 5 years ago..he's still going to court and paying fines and trying to get his shit back.
They took his car, threw him in jail, fined him thousands of dollars.
All because he drank like 4 beers over the course of 2 hours and drove home.

and you don't think the penelties are too severe?
When you hear the buzz word 'drunk driver' you think some lunatic weavign all over running over mailboxes....99.9% of the time that is not what it is. It's a person like me or you who got trapped into the fucking cocksucking cops crooked ass unfair web of bullshit.
It's all about stealing money people, that's it.
The more you people fall for their stupid scare tactics, the further you allow them to take things, the further they will push it...hence the new weed tests on the side of the road.
The cops might as well start wearing full on pirate costumes instead of their stupid boy scout outfits they wear now, that's all they are.

slincire wrote:

fedaykin13 wrote:Have any of you that say the drunk driving laws are too harsh been charged with them?

I don't think they are too harsh
and I was charged with a DUI

it sucked
it cost me a ton of money
and hell yeah its harsh
but ya know what
i will never ever make the mistake again
ever
there are plenty of things you can do to avoid driving under the influence
walk, take a cab, wait til your sober
there is no excuse

Yeah, but say you've drank two beers, and are completely cabable of driving, and do drive, and your blood alcohol level is higher than the arbitrarily imposed limit, which may even have been your case, don't you think getting fucked in the ass is a bit steep of a price to pay?

fedaykin13 wrote:

slincire wrote:

fedaykin13 wrote:Have any of you that say the drunk driving laws are too harsh been charged with them?

I don't think they are too harsh
and I was charged with a DUI

it sucked
it cost me a ton of money
and hell yeah its harsh
but ya know what
i will never ever make the mistake again
ever
there are plenty of things you can do to avoid driving under the influence
walk, take a cab, wait til your sober
there is no excuse

Yeah, but say you've drank two beers, and are completely cabable of driving, and do drive, and your blood alcohol level is higher than the arbitrarily imposed limit, which may even have been your case, don't you think getting fucked in the ass is a bit steep of a price to pay?

no.
we know what the limit is
it's not a mystery
you should be aware of yourself enough to know
"i shouldn't drive now because if i get pulled over i'll be over the limit"
or you know,
"i might be impaired and hurt someone"

either one

simple as that.

slincire wrote:

fedaykin13 wrote:

slincire wrote:

fedaykin13 wrote:Have any of you that say the drunk driving laws are too harsh been charged with them?

I don't think they are too harsh
and I was charged with a DUI

it sucked
it cost me a ton of money
and hell yeah its harsh
but ya know what
i will never ever make the mistake again
ever
there are plenty of things you can do to avoid driving under the influence
walk, take a cab, wait til your sober
there is no excuse

Yeah, but say you've drank two beers, and are completely cabable of driving, and do drive, and your blood alcohol level is higher than the arbitrarily imposed limit, which may even have been your case, don't you think getting fucked in the ass is a bit steep of a price to pay?

no.
we know what the limit is
it's not a mystery
you should be aware of yourself enough to know
"i shouldn't drive now because if i get pulled over i'll be over the limit"
or you know,
"i might be impaired and hurt someone"

either one

simple as that.

What about, "I'm not impaired, so I know I won't hurt anyone, but I might be over the legal limit, so, since I might get fucked in the ass, I won't drive."?

That's the situation I would encounter more often, if I had a car. In either case you propose, I agree with you, you should not drive.

Whatever, it all does suck though. Some people will be unjustly penalized, some will be unjustly unpenalized. The only way it could be fair is if everything were judged on a situatinal basis, which will never happen and would open new doors to lack of fairness if it did.