Steely Dan . . .

They were listenable for their first three records, especially Can't Buy A Thrill and Pretzel Logic. They downright sound like a band on those albums, and while it was a style that became ubiquitous, it sounds pretty fresh as performed by Steely Dan. They were unique for a short while.

Just about everything else, except maybe parts of Katy Lied, is absolutely godawful. Aja is detestable garbage of the highest order.

Can I just pipe in to say that Dave Grohl is an absolute bore? That his opinion on anything is about as interesting as, say, a discussion on advanced spackling techniques?

Alright. Back to Steely Dan....

This is some quality fucking spackle! I shit you not.


The thing I like about "Don't Bring Me Down" is there ain't a single cymbal crash in the whole song.

Pure L wrote:This is some quality fucking spackle! I shit you not.

I concede, if you're trying to cover a wallboard clip and the exposed wall surface isn't free of large ridges, bumps or other protrusions (all of which are capable of causing protrusions when covered by conventional taping and spackling techniques), you hafta use Synko.

coach wrote:Can I just pipe in to say that Dave Grohl is an absolute bore? That his opinion on anything is about as interesting as, say, a discussion on advanced spackling techniques?

Alright. Back to Steely Dan....

Ya know, he doesn't really need a defender, cause he's doing just fine in this world; nonetheless, I feel obliged to say that Dave Grohl is a nice fucking dude. I had a drink with him one time and found him to be a solid guy. I also find him talking about music to be a lot more interesting than the music he has been playing.

It's interesting to see how some people who make really boring rock music actually aren't phoning it in. They worked really, really hard on something that seems pretty generic. This is true of Alkaline Trio and Coldplay as well. Genuine passion, comes out genuine plastic.

I think the recording studio and producers are the place where good ideas get overworked and glossed until they come out like a non-fat vanilla latte from starbucks. Bad things can happen to art with a million dollar budget.

Steely Dan were a lot of things but they were not a vanilla latte.

BadComrade wrote:I was also impressed with the results in the Blue Oyster Cult c/nc

How so? I was pretty sure that anyone who listened to `em liked `em...

...I suppose you could hate BOC if you hate post-arthur brown, or geiger-rock, or detroit garage, or classic cock-rock, or...

coach wrote:Can I just pipe in to say that Dave Grohl is an absolute bore? That his opinion on anything is about as interesting as, say, a discussion on advanced spackling techniques.

I laughed out loud at this. thank you.

Jeremy wrote:I never really heard Steely Dan until right now.

I've heard so many people say this, only to find out that they recognized like five different Steely Dan songs that they just never knew were by Steely Dan.

It's like...

"I've never heard Steely Dan'.

Play "Peg" for them.

"Oh, *that's* Steely Dan?"

Play "My Old School" for them

"Wait, that's Steely Dan?!?"

Play "Hey Nineteen" or "Josie" or something or other...



It seems like the only way to be an American adult without ever having heard Steely Dan is to just never listen to music in public, or teevee, on the radio, whatever, through your whole life. Their songs are all over the place.

In my case, I have some on the memory card in my phone.

Scooter is right... they were always playin' the Dan on about half of the FM stations about half of the time. This would be all of the 80s and most of the 90s... and prolly even more further back into the 70s.

Might be that Jeremy just never listened to FM radio or is too young to have had the pleasure.

BadComrade wrote:

ginandtacos.com wrote:

BadComrade wrote:

Argumentum ad populum - always a solid rhetorical strategy!

http://fallacyfiles.org/bandwagn.html

Do you really equate the people on this board (most importantly their tastes and views) with the general public? I think the general public would be like, 90% for Steely Dan. The fact that this board has not crap over crap is pretty impressive to me.

Appeals to popularity say nothing about the "general" public, and frankly your inability to understand why posting an opinion poll does not prove your point (the subjective goodness of a particular band) is indicative of a larger rhetorical deficit than I'm prepared to correct with a simple response.