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Bat Houses

Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:56 pm
by gmilner_Archive
otisroom wrote:Do bats get along with dogs? Like if you built a bat house on your property and you also had dogs would there be a conflict? Or would the two never interact?


I think bats probably feel about dogs the same way they feel about people, which is pretty much indifference. If a bat is out and flying around, that means it is on a mission to eat its weight insects before sun-up. They're constantly sending out their echo-locator signal and noting what it bounces off of. If it bounces off you (or a dog), it just registers as "not food." That's why it's a myth that bats want to fly in your hair, etc. If they're coming close to you, it's probably to grab a nearby mosquito.

How dogs feel about bats is another matter. My guess is they don't notice them much, and if they do, it's unlikely they'll be able to grab one.

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:57 pm
by jayryan_Archive
otisroom wrote:Do bats get along with dogs? Like if you built a bat house on your property and you also had dogs would there be a conflict? Or would the two never interact?


unless your dogs fly around at night, i think you're clear.

and no, there's nothing goth about making a bat house for my wife, the naturalist.

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:11 pm
by Tom_Archive
jayryan wrote:
otisroom wrote:Do bats get along with dogs? Like if you built a bat house on your property and you also had dogs would there be a conflict? Or would the two never interact?


unless your dogs fly around at night, i think you're clear.

and no, there's nothing goth about making a bat house for my wife, the naturalist.


I think he was asking this:

Q: Will bat's bite my dog and give them rabies?
A: Yes They will. And if you want to be really terrified of it, listen to the first story here

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:13 pm
by Yngwie Einstein_Archive
I'm looking forward to Jay's next poster of a bat house.

When I was a kid, we used to visit my grandma in Chetek, Wi. She had a house on the lake there and at sundown, the bats would come out and circle above us as we fished off her pier. We were kids and were convinced the bats wanted to make nests of our hair, so we would run back to the house shrieking when they came out.

Bats: Not Crap.

Bat guano: Crap. Just cuz it is.

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:17 pm
by Tom_Archive
Yngwie Einstein wrote:
Bat guano: Crap. Just cuz it is.


Guano Islands Act is NOT crap.

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:22 pm
by lemur68_Archive
nananana nananana bat hooouse

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:25 pm
by kenoki_Archive
DrAwkward wrote:There's a bat house in a park in Gainesville, FL that houses thousands and thousands of bats. When my ex moved down there we checked it out. At the same time every night, the bats would just stream out of it like something out of Batman Begins. So cool.


you beat me to it!
it is cool as heck though.

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:29 pm
by gmilner_Archive
Tom wrote:
Q: Will bat's bite my dog and give them rabies?
A: Yes They will.[/url]


Eh...not really.

From Bat Conservation Organization's Public Health FAQ http://www.batcon.org/home/index.asp?id ... SubPage=62

How dangerous are bats?
Bat rabies accounts for approximately one human death per year in the United States. Thus, some people consider bats to be dangerous. Nevertheless, dogs which often are considered "man's best friend," attack and kill more humans annually than die from bat rabies in a decade. Statistically speaking, pets, playground equipment, and sports are far more dangerous than bats. Clearly, bats do not rank very high among mortality threats to humans. Nevertheless, prudence and simple precautions can save lives.

Do large bat populations lead to increased incidence of rabies transmission to humans?
The largest urban bat populations consist almost exclusively of colonial species, and there is no evidence linking them to increased transmission to humans. Tens of thousands of people have closely observed the emergences of 1.5 million Mexican free-tailed bats at the Congress Avenue Bridge in Austin, Texas each summer for over 16 years without incident. In fact, though Austin, San Antonio, and several other Texas Hill Country towns likely support the highest bat densities in America, they have recorded no human cases of bat-transmitted rabies.

Are bats likely to cause rabies outbreaks in other wildlife or in domestic animals?
There is no evidence that rabies from bats has ever triggered an outbreak in other animals. It occasionally does spill over into other species, causing individual animals to die, but even this is apparently rare. Despite the fact that numerous carnivores gather to feed on the 20 million Mexican free-tailed bats at Bracken Cave, Texas, no outbreaks of rabies are known from this source. No transmission from bats to dogs is known to have occurred, though rare cases of transmission to cats have been documented. The presence or absence of bats is irrelevant to the fact that all dogs and cats should be vaccinated.

Is it safe to put up bat houses?
Statistically, it's safer than owning a dog or planting flowers. Flowers attract bees whose stings account for far more human fatality than bats. Just banning bicycles or swimming pools would be hundreds of times more effective in saving lives, but how safe do we really want to be?

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 4:55 pm
by djimbe_Archive
I own a 145 year old home in Northwest Indiana. You KNOW I have bats. It's damn near impossible to get them out of your house. Critters can go through a 1/2" gap.

Bat houses are indeed best when of proven design. I got a book many years ago that spells that out. Now I guess the info is on-line. I built two houses, basically 40" x 24" x 9" deep with an insulated brood chamber and two outer chambers. One is on a roof area, and it's only been sparsely checked out. I never hung it and it's entrance isn't great. The other is hanging from an eve in a choice location. Sunny in the winter is good in Indiana. That one was populated within the first year and has been for maybe 8.

I sorta "primed" the houses first. When you got bats, you got guano. Get you some guano, steep it in some hot water for a day (outside fergodsakes...) and use the "tea" in a sprayer to wet up the inside of the house a bit before you hang it. Smells like home that way. Extra "tea" makes the nicest fertalizer you've ever used...you know...for "indoor" plants...

Bats are a complete joy to watch at night, especially when you live in mosquito infested wooded swamp land like me. If you ever need to catch a bat that's in your house try this:

get a bath towel. Now, hold your elbows down to your sides, and bring your hands up by your shoulders. Drape the towel the long way across your hands. The bat will fly towards you then veer off. He is NOT going to fly into you! They are FAR superior at avoidence than you think. Let the bat fly towards you, but before it veers, toss the towel and bring your hands together in one motion. The towel kinda folds itself around the bat and drops to the ground. Gather it up and shake it out outside. No bat in house. No dead bat. No bitten human. Nice work...

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Posted: Tue Aug 05, 2008 5:01 pm
by iembalm_Archive
I was at summer Boy Scout camp once. It was late dusk getting well on to dark. A bunch of us were sitting at a picnic table. Our Senior Patrol Leader said, "Watch this!" He took the last bite of his apple and tossed the core straight up in the air. It never came down.