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warmowski wrote:AdamN wrote:Jesus Christ, will he make it to Iowa?https://twitter.com/politico/status/1122965958564257792You either learn it or you don't, and clearly the DNC coterie of consultants hasn't: empty platitudes are now obviously empty to general election voters and we should expect such platitudes to be wiped the fuck out when run against even the merest, meanest content. That opposing content may consist of just rambling drunk racist uncle-type castigation and be rooted in no reality whatsoever -- that does not harm its status and function as content. At the podium, hatred and bile is saying something. Above, Joe Biden is saying nothing. Then there's the world away from the podium. What has the candidate delivered? Trump has delivered an endless TV and social media circus that makes tens of millions of hateful, bilious TV watchers smile. Joe Biden has delivered nothing. In general elections today, something is a strong favorite against nothing. If nominated, Joe Biden will almost certainly lose the general against Trump. -rAnd in 2020, as in 2016, it will be blamed on Bernie Bros and Susan Sarandon because "purity tests" and "circular firing squad" and bloo bloo bluh bluh.

AdamN wrote:Jesus Christ, will he make it to Iowa?https://twitter.com/politico/status/1122965958564257792You either learn it or you don't, and clearly the DNC coterie of consultants hasn't: empty platitudes are now obviously empty to general election voters and we should expect such platitudes to be wiped the fuck out when run against even the merest, meanest content. That opposing content may consist of just rambling drunk racist uncle-type castigation and be rooted in no reality whatsoever -- that does not harm its status and function as content. At the podium, hatred and bile is saying something. Above, Joe Biden is saying nothing. Then there's the world away from the podium. What has the candidate delivered? Trump has delivered an endless TV and social media circus that makes tens of millions of hateful, bilious TV watchers smile. Joe Biden has delivered nothing. In general elections today, something is a strong favorite against nothing. If nominated, Joe Biden will almost certainly lose the general against Trump. -r

It seems like the entire rationale for supporting Biden is that he d beat Trump in the debates and then ”viola! ”win the presidency. Just like Clinton did after her debate performances, and Romney did before her.Biden is crap. WF1 for being better than Trump.

the\_joe\_lemur wrote:Angus Jung wrote:jimmy two hands wrote:The DNC is trying so hard to make him the commanding front runner, they put out 2 polls today with a statistical sampling of zero people under 50 years old. I'm still thinking he'll be the Jeb! of this race.Joe Lieberman* had a big lead at this point in the 2004 Democratic Presidential race.*It isn't easy to think of a Democrat shittier than Joe Biden but Lieberman is, maybe!Fuckin' Joes, manAdd Manchin to that list

If Joe Manchin was the D nom I think I'd stay home.

Not a big Biden fan but he seems to scare Trump which is nice to see.It'd be easier to watch Trump beat up on Biden than have to sit through the ugliness he'd unleash against any of the others.I'm not stumping for Biden here, just musing.The DNC-issued wisdom of "this is the most electable candidate" rightly gives us 2016 flashback nightmares. Lots of people who won last November probably wouldn't have been considered "most electable," but they did run and they won.ps This is still the best Biden story.

Angus Jung wrote:jimmy two hands wrote:The DNC is trying so hard to make him the commanding front runner, they put out 2 polls today with a statistical sampling of zero people under 50 years old. I'm still thinking he'll be the Jeb! of this race.Joe Lieberman* had a big lead at this point in the 2004 Democratic Presidential race.*It isn't easy to think of a Democrat shittier than Joe Biden but Lieberman is, maybe!Fuckin' Joes, man

Boombats wrote:the\_joe\_lemur wrote:Angus Jung wrote:jimmy two hands wrote:The DNC is trying so hard to make him the commanding front runner, they put out 2 polls today with a statistical sampling of zero people under 50 years old. I'm still thinking he'll be the Jeb! of this race.Joe Lieberman* had a big lead at this point in the 2004 Democratic Presidential race.*It isn't easy to think of a Democrat shittier than Joe Biden but Lieberman is, maybe!Fuckin' Joes, manAdd Manchin to that listhttps://www.thewrap.com/joe-scarborough ... shoulders/