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Got it.When I think treble/"Zing", my mind kind of goes to something along the lines of "The Unforgettable Fire". Is that in the ballpark, or a little too much treble?

honeyisfunny wrote:Something like this:https://sweetwilliams.bandcamp.com/trac ... swimming-2This is my friend Tom who has a perfect balance of distortion and clean ZING. I can get it nicely for recording but the HH amp I run needs to be a little too loud to get it easily - though when it is loud it sounds incredible. It's solid state so I'm thinking it's not about drive but about compression and frequency boosting. Going to give a Keeley Compressor a bash I think to just even it all out and give it a boost at lower volume on the HH.Ok. Giving that a listen, I think that this pedal could be in the ballpark. It goes from doing less to kind of feeling like it might be in that(the tune in that link) ballpark as the video goes along before things get to "Full On Ragin"Obviously, there's always "The blue I see may not be the blue you see..." when it comes to this sort of thing.

twelvepoint wrote:honeyisfunny wrote:Something like this:https://sweetwilliams.bandcamp.com/trac ... swimming-2This is my friend Tom who has a perfect balance of distortion and clean ZING. I can get it nicely for recording but the HH amp I run needs to be a little too loud to get it easily - though when it is loud it sounds incredible. It's solid state so I'm thinking it's not about drive but about compression and frequency boosting. Going to give a Keeley Compressor a bash I think to just even it all out and give it a boost at lower volume on the HH.This is a great tone and there s a... I d call it œsponginess to the tone that I love, but can t seem to nail. I thought a compressor would be a start, but I can t seem to get my Janglebox to do that kind of compressed-but-clear thing. I m starting to wonder if there are certain pickup qualities with regard to this tone? An alnico thing? Speaker thing? Tube rectifier thing?Reading that got me to thinking.I have seen a few folks bring up being fans of the way the Fairfield Circuitry Barbershop approximates that sort of thing. This video is a pretty good example of the way it hits/misses. Again, it's sort of tough to guess at how it might work in the setup that honeyisfunny described.

honeyisfunny wrote:Something like this:https://sweetwilliams.bandcamp.com/trac ... swimming-2This is my friend Tom who has a perfect balance of distortion and clean ZING. I can get it nicely for recording but the HH amp I run needs to be a little too loud to get it easily - though when it is loud it sounds incredible. It's solid state so I'm thinking it's not about drive but about compression and frequency boosting. Going to give a Keeley Compressor a bash I think to just even it all out and give it a boost at lower volume on the HH.This is a great tone and there s a... I d call it œsponginess to the tone that I love, but can t seem to nail. I thought a compressor would be a start, but I can t seem to get my Janglebox to do that kind of compressed-but-clear thing. I m starting to wonder if there are certain pickup qualities with regard to this tone? An alnico thing? Speaker thing? Tube rectifier thing?

I have a Union Tube and Transistor More set to near zero for that sort of sound. I use an AC30, so the pedal more useful to me as a slight boost/EQ then cranking it very much, but it might work great for you. Supposedly it s based on the preamp of a Korg SDD-3000 and it s made to put at the end of your signal chain, but I m not sure if it has a buffer or not. I like it much better than a Zvex Super Hard-On, which I have sitting in a box in my practice space right now. The More is sort expensive, but if you buy used you should be able to get your money back if you don t like it. They have them for $200 USD new on their website.

Nate Dort wrote:twelvepoint wrote:JangleboxMethinks you might benefit from the blend knob on something like the Barber Tone Press. Parallel compression in stompbox form.The Barber Tone Press is a great pedal. I didn t like most compressors because they seemed to pinch too much of the attack (don t like using both pickups for the same reason), but being able to dial in the clean sound is a huge benefit. TBH it does me no good at band practice but I do like the sound through a clean amp at home.

twelvepoint wrote:JangleboxMethinks you might benefit from the blend knob on something like the Barber Tone Press. Parallel compression in stompbox form.

llllllllllllllllllllllll wrote:I have a Union Tube and Transistor More set to near zero for that sort of sound. I use an AC30, so the pedal more useful to me as a slight boost/EQ then cranking it very much, but it might work great for you. Supposedly it s based on the preamp of a Korg SDD-3000 and it s made to put at the end of your signal chain, but I m not sure if it has a buffer or not. I like it much better than a Zvex Super Hard-On, which I have sitting in a box in my practice space right now. The More is sort expensive, but if you buy used you should be able to get your money back if you don t like it. They have them for $200 USD new on their website.I think what I'm hearing in that sound is some sag during attack? My main amp at home is a Princeton, and I'd think the tube rectifier would kinda make that happen, but not so much. Maybe with an AC30 the cathode bias is contributing to that? I experimented a bit more, and found that my Janglebox compressor is helpful, but I needed to put attack at 9-10 o'clock, not the over the top McGuinn thing I had been using. But then things got muddy with the bass. Moving from the internal 10 jensen to an external 2x12 (loaded w 25w weber alnicos) cleaned up a lot of that mud. Interestingly enough, I'm using Dr's KWB for a little oomph, and I had it post-compressor, but putting it pre-compressor also helped with the bass flab. Had to roll the bass back to 3 on the amp as well.

Nate Dort wrote:twelvepoint wrote:JangleboxMethinks you might benefit from the blend knob on something like the Barber Tone Press. Parallel compression in stompbox form.I'd like to try one. There again, the purist in me keeps saying this quality of tone can be had going straight into a good fender twin.