Re: Airwindows plugins

21
What's the deal with send/return with console? Or parallel processing (which I guess is the same exact issue)?

In fact where do you put the channel plug if you use other plugs on the track?

I'm assuming the idea is to avoid further processing of the coded audio? So processing happens 'outside' console?

Seems like a nightmare of faffy gain staging.

Maybe idiots like me are best to avoid it! Even thinking about routing this into one of my mixes is making me sweat!!

Re: Airwindows plugins

22
Leeplusplus wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 10:22 pm Baxandall is my favorite. Beyond the sound, there's a certain psychological impact to barely moving a slider and the whole mix changes drastically.

I'll try a different track and try pushing more level from the Console7Channels into the bus to try and draw out whatever it is that Console7 is doing. I can see myself using the tape and vinyl emulators more often and pushing their gain. I didn't know until this experiment just how critical distortion is to analogue emulation.

Thanks for listening and for the compliments! Please share any other airwindows techniques you like, I'm looking for things to try.
Awesome!

When you have mixes of your tracks with which you are happy, perhaps after a C7 pushy project or whathaveyou, export/print them all. The, export each one as a new track into a new session, but instead of using C7 in this new project, use PurestConsole2. PC2 has no gain trim controls, so gain staging needs to be done with other things. I like Baxandall, but the go to seems to be PurestGain. Anyhow, _then_ use ToVinyl4 with some kind of bass-monoing utility plugin before it as per the trick in my post above. All of this along with some other tubey and Desk things on the buss can go a long way to making everything sound unified and "like a record" so the speak. Sometimes this is easier outside of the C7 distortion
"lol, listen to op 'music' and you'll understand"....

https://sebastiansequoiah-grayson.bandcamp.com/
https://oblier.bandcamp.com/releases
https://youtube.com/user/sebbityseb

Re: Airwindows plugins

23
Kniferide wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 2:23 am Not the same thing, but Analog Obsessions is another tiny, single guy team, plugin dev that makes super great shit
His box eq is great. His trident eq is too. If you like ssl style comps, I can't seem to ever get them to work for me, His is my favorite. I. Totally down with patreoning these types so the can keep doing what they do.
Have downloaded a few of his things but not had the chance to use them yet
"lol, listen to op 'music' and you'll understand"....

https://sebastiansequoiah-grayson.bandcamp.com/
https://oblier.bandcamp.com/releases
https://youtube.com/user/sebbityseb

Re: Airwindows plugins

24
Adam_I_III wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:09 am What's the deal with send/return with console? Or parallel processing (which I guess is the same exact issue)?

In fact where do you put the channel plug if you use other plugs on the track?

I'm assuming the idea is to avoid further processing of the coded audio? So processing happens 'outside' console?

Seems like a nightmare of faffy gain staging.

Maybe idiots like me are best to avoid it! Even thinking about routing this into one of my mixes is making me sweat!!
You always always always but the the channel plug at the very end of your plugin chain. The only exception to this is on the masterbuss/2buss

s/r or pp just need to happen "inside" a console environment. So as long as they are happening on a plugin chain before the channel plugin, or after a buss plugin, you would be good. As long as the s/r returns to a point inside the console environment then all will be well. Does this make sense?

Gain staging is a faffy faff on a large number of tracks insofar as one has to select the console channel plugin to adjust post-insert gain (or pre-insert gain on busses, since they all start with a buss plugin
"lol, listen to op 'music' and you'll understand"....

https://sebastiansequoiah-grayson.bandcamp.com/
https://oblier.bandcamp.com/releases
https://youtube.com/user/sebbityseb

Re: Airwindows plugins

25
Is there an Airwindows plugin that can subtly widen the stereo field? I'd like to try something like that on a stereo guitar buss.

Edit: I should have reread the entire thread first, I think I'll try this one..
seby wrote: Tue Sep 21, 2021 10:53 pm The last one, Srsly2, is a wild stereoiser. A teensy bit goes a very, very long way with this.
Music

Re: Airwindows plugins

26
Srsly2 is very interesting but I find I only use it for aux reverbs, and I really don't default to putting digital reverb on anything.
There's also Wider, which is a much more subtle mastering-style stereo width control.

Seby thank you for that detailed breakdown! Much to explore.
I've been debating whether to spend time on like an Unfussy/Beginner/Rock 'n Roll Airwindows template guide, I will try to drop that here this week maybe.
active things: Belonging, These Estates, Spruce Island

Re: Airwindows plugins

27
Mason wrote: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:38 pm Srsly2 is very interesting but I find I only use it for aux reverbs, and I really don't default to putting digital reverb on anything.
There's also Wider, which is a much more subtle mastering-style stereo width control.
Thanks! I was able to try both briefly and I think Wider was more what I was looking for here. Srsly2 had a bit of crunch added, even on low settings. That one might be more fun for exaggerated stereo drum room mics.
Music

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 0 guests