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Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2021 9:35 am
by tommy
seby wrote: Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:58 am
tommy wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:28 am
As everyone else has said, small diaphragm condenser. BUT, if you are on a tight budget and already have a large condenser, use that! Depending on guitar, you'll probably find that you get the best sound pointed either where the neck meets the body, or somewhere near the bottom - both at relatively close proximity to the guitar.
Do you not get woofy proximity pumping from a LDC up close? I need to back then away at least 18", more like two feet. But I do use big strings and beat the shit out of my guitars, so this does not help matters.
Yeah, it's confusing. I put several thoughts into a couple of sentences there and wasn't clear enough. My bad. I don't usually get a lot of woofiness where the neck meets the body (the reason I tend to go with that spot. It's a nice mix of bright and full). I only mic the big part of the guitar if it's a thinner sounding acoustic. But in general, I'd say I've had luck up super close with a dynamic and somewhere around 12" with a SDC. I don't get quite as directional with an LDC. But I usually try a little greater than 12" first and go from there if I want more or less room sound. But it all boils down to the guitar and player. If I'm recording acoustic, it's usually me and I'm generally trying to play super evenly and just loud enough though. So that might also have a lot to do with it.
Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Wed May 04, 2022 12:31 pm
by cakes
An update here: I picked up a pair of Shure KSM137s. They sound fantastic. I've spent some time playing around with positioning that I like, and I am pretty fond of having one mic pointed at the hole, the other sweeping across the next, though I think the cross stereo position is pretty nice, too.
Here's a recent example:
Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 7:49 am
by penningtron
Sounds great!
On a whim recording demos a few months back, I set my handheld stereo recorder close to the body/neck joint of my Martin and was sort of blown away. I'd never recorded guitar in stereo before (it seemed silly in my mind) and couldn't believe what a difference it made.
Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 2:48 pm
by cakes
penningtron wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 7:49 am
Sounds great!
On a whim recording demos a few months back, I set my handheld stereo recorder close to the body/neck joint of my Martin and was sort of blown away. I'd never recorded guitar in stereo before (it seemed silly in my mind) and couldn't believe what a difference it made.
How do you like the Martin for recording? I A/Bd a Martin and a Yamaha, and I really liked them both for totally different reasons. The Martin was really bright in comparison.
Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Thu May 05, 2022 3:20 pm
by penningtron
cakes wrote: Thu May 05, 2022 2:48 pm
How do you like the Martin for recording? I A/Bd a Martin and a Yamaha, and I really liked them both for totally different reasons. The Martin was really bright in comparison.
This Martin is concert sized and mahogany/sapele, so I wouldn't say it's overly bright. I'm finding with smaller acoustics you can mic near the hole without getting excessive woofiness. I haven't even tried it with great mics yet, I'm still refining my technique and tunings (and umm..
songs/playing of course).
Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 1:35 pm
by eliya
Didn't want to start a new thread, but I want to get a nylon string guitar. Sometimes a guy just gets a hankering for playing bossa nova. Can I find something decent for $600 or less?
Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 1:41 pm
by four_oclocker_2.2
eliya wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 1:35 pm
Didn't want to start a new thread, but I want to get a nylon string guitar. Sometimes a guy just gets a hankering for playing bossa nova. Can I find something decent for $600 or less?
I don't know how often he posts in here these days, but I would definitely hit up FM barndog for advice!
Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Mon May 09, 2022 4:06 pm
by TylerDeadPine
eliya wrote: Mon May 09, 2022 1:35 pm
Didn't want to start a new thread, but I want to get a nylon string guitar. Sometimes a guy just gets a hankering for playing bossa nova. Can I find something decent for $600 or less?
I am extremely bias to canadian builders/wood etc. etc. and with that I think these guitars are
really fun. $650 canadian (~$500 usd) - great looking finish, solid wood top back/sides. Not a flamenco guitar by any means, but a lot of value for the price range
https://www.chicagomusicexchange.com/pr ... ing-642832
https://artandlutherieguitars.com/produ ... rbon-burst
Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:38 am
by cakes
I switched up my mic positions to use the stereo mic holder for the KSM137s. One mic is still pointed directly at the hole and the second one is grazing the neck, mostly pointed near the headstock (usually where the fingers are playing). The sound is still nice and rounded out, but I like it a lot beyond the sound: easier cable management and using one less stand.
I'm using a large diaphragm mic for vocals and recording both guitar and vocals at the same time. The bleed is tremendous, and I was a little worried about it at first, but it does mix well. In the end, the performance is what matters most, so I ditched the idea of tracking vocals separately because it was harder on the performance. Really happy with where everything is going. I add just a touch of room reverb, which smooths everything out and feels more natural (my recording room is very dead).
Re: Acoustic Guitar Recording Recommendations
Posted: Thu Jun 02, 2022 4:50 pm
by seby
cakes wrote: Thu Jun 02, 2022 10:38 am
I switched up my mic positions to use the stereo mic holder for the KSM137s. One mic is still pointed directly at the hole and the second one is grazing the neck, mostly pointed near the headstock (usually where the fingers are playing). The sound is still nice and rounded out, but I like it a lot beyond the sound: easier cable management and using one less stand.
I'm using a large diaphragm mic for vocals and recording both guitar and vocals at the same time. The bleed is tremendous, and I was a little worried about it at first, but it does mix well. In the end, the performance is what matters most, so I ditched the idea of tracking vocals separately because it was harder on the performance. Really happy with where everything is going. I add just a touch of room reverb, which smooths everything out and feels more natural (my recording room is very dead).
Bleed can be fantastic! Clips?