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Alice Cooper isn't glam, Randy!

Everyone knows it's either T Rex or the Dolls, so why y'all playin'?

rsmurphy wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:45 am Everyone knows it's either T Rex or the Dolls, so why y'all playin'?

Now here's the thing glamwise - it all falls flat on its face unless you know the players could give a good account of themselves on the cobbles. For whatever strange reason that's just how it is, which is why it's Slade. Beneath all the glitz and good times, they would kick your teeth in. Perfect.

Yo, Scorcese didn't make a doc about Noddy Holder tho.

A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 7:45 amon the cobbles.

Brit slang is adorable!

When I think of Glam, I think of the bands that never got out of the glam ghetto...Slade, Garry Glitter, Sweet. Of those, I guess T-Rex is head and shoulders above the rest. But if I consider the larger scope of Bowie outside of Ziggy Stardust and Roxy Music's output (and Eno solo work), those guys are well advanced beyond the genre limitations.

No mention of Jobriath?



90% of what I listen to these days falls in this camp (pun intended).
Honestly, I can't choose one of these options. They all had their moments. For me, Sweet is probably my least favorite of the bunch. I'd take The Glitter Band or Wizzard or Mott or Suzy Quatro over Sweet.

rsmurphy wrote: Mon Aug 22, 2022 8:24 am Yo, Scorcese didn't make a doc about Noddy Holder tho.

He wouldn't have dared.

Bowie, followed by Alice Cooper (if they count) or the Dolls (if they don’t). T Rex is fine when I hear them/him, but I’ve never felt compelled to dig deeper.

Sweet sucks. I don’t get the praise for that band.

And you’ve gotta be fucking kidding me about Hanoi Rocks.

Speaking of Sparks: does their early stuff count as glam? Especially since everyone thought they were a British band anyway.

Many bands that transcend the label could be considered "glam".

Sparks for sure. Maybe Queen or Be Bop Deluxe as well.

I voted Roxy.

Okay, so I suppose some genre qualification questions are inevitable. Clearly I'm not the expert, but I think I have an angle.

David Bowie's career is clearly not all glam. Ziggy and Diamond Dogs are solid glam canon, but (maybe) Man Who Sold the World, or (definitely) Blackstar among many other albums are not. Nonetheless, his contributions to glam are clear, so he's in the discussion.

Alice Cooper's Love It to Death seems to be an album that's interested in glam. The glam vs hard rock lines get a little blurry, but it feels pretty glam.

Queen however is a band that didn't have a glam phase, they just had some occasional glam tendencies.

Is this working?

Also, would anyone say Lou Reed Transformer is a glam album?