Really? STP is:

CRAP
Total votes: 16 (70%)
NOT CRAP
Total votes: 7 (30%)
Total votes: 23

Re: Band: Stone Temple Pilots

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hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 1:07 pm
very long interview but there's some meat on the bone there.
Sat through most of this video while waiting to check out of my hotel and head home from Korea.

This band is not earth-shattering by any means, and Weiland can be too much. But Robert DeLeo seems super intelligent musically, and some of the cool hooks they bury in their songs get stuck in my head, like that bass line in "Trippin' on a Hole in a Paper Heart".

It's very difficult to not like them more... or at least Robert DeLeo... after watching this.
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Re: Band: Stone Temple Pilots

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"And I feel, so much depends on the weather. So is it raining in your bedroom?"

No one will ever convince me this is not the worst lyric of all time. Still, every so often I put that tune on because those chords on that guitar does a little something to my spine.

Crap, though.
"And the light, it burns your skin...in a language you don't understand."

Re: Band: Stone Temple Pilots

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Come on, the bassist alone make this a Not Crap.

This must be my teenager grunge fanboy wannabe speaking, but I think some of their stuff holds up better than some of Seattle callled "finest".

They received hate from the debut early days and, while I'd agree "Plush" is very much crap, "Creep" is just decent and "wicked garden" is meh the rest of that record is pure hardrock'ola heaven. I honestly think the singles from that record are CLEARLY the weakest songs on the album, except maybe from "Sex type thing", which has an undeniably cool riff.

The tiny little pretty bassline on "no memory"; Not Crap ever.

"Piece of pie". That riff is godly. The transitions are spectacular.

Purple might be their most accomplished record and sonically is a must listen if only for the pure quality of the recording; listen to "lounge fly" on headphones.

Tiny music has some great tracks in a rather weak record.

Rest of the stuff never care much but at least I think they never sucked.

Re: Band: Stone Temple Pilots

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Maybe one of the first 5 albums I bought.

i heard two kids at school that i thought were really cool talking about them. They smoked marijuana and scared me. i didn't know anything about anything and loved my mum.

They kept referring to them as "The Stones" and I remember thinking "oh, Rolling Stones are cool?". I asked and they laughed and made fun of me and I learnt that they were talking about the Temple Pilots.

I bought their first album first and I remember sitting with it for a month as a 13 year old that didn't know about anything and loved his mum and not understanding why it was so good and because I knew i was a 13 year old that didn't know about anything and loved his mum i assumed it must just be me. I thought i was missing something and that i was stupid.

Imagine being a naive impressionable 13 old that loved his mum and being told by good authority this is what's cool.



The whole album sounds like that. it's completely shit, beyond shit, but it really really confused me because they were grown men expressing something and it has this vibe. I tried very hard to find something in it and cling to because I had maybe 5 CDs, it was supposed to be really important and i spent so much money on it.

I thought I didn't like music and that it must be too sophisticated for me.
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Re: Band: Stone Temple Pilots

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iembalm wrote: Fri Apr 21, 2023 9:24 pm "And I feel, so much depends on the weather. So is it raining in your bedroom?"

No one will ever convince me this is not the worst lyric of all time. Still, every so often I put that tune on because those chords on that guitar does a little something to my spine.

Crap, though.
Oof yeah, that's high level awful.

Sometimes I play the main riff from that song (cause I learned it when I was 12) in the 'guitarist at band practice makes everyone laugh by playing outdated iconic riffs' kind of way and I usually get so annoyed with myself that I stop. This is what Smashing Pumpkins and RATM are for.
Happyman wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:36 am


The whole album sounds like that. it's completely shit, beyond shit, but it really really confused me because they were grown men expressing something and it It has this vibe. I tried very hard to find something in it and cling to because I had maybe 5 CDs, it was supposed to be really important and i spent so much money on it.
I never thought about it before but the lyrical stance of 'Dead and Bloated' might be proto nu metal. My mom couldn't help but express annoyance as I belted along with Weilend with the headphones from my parents hifi on my ears.

And let's take a minute to admire the graphic design on the cover of Core. Truly an iconic vision of early 90s tackiness.

Re: Band: Stone Temple Pilots

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Happyman wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:36 amI tried very hard to find something in it and cling to because I had maybe 5 CDs, it was supposed to be really important and i spent so much money on it.
Oh my, there sure are a few occasions where I spent a lot of money (relative to me at the time) on an album that utterly sucked, but still had to listen to it a lot as a cope. "Well, this is kinda good...".

A number of those occasions with videogames too.
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Re: Band: Stone Temple Pilots

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I think it was Cobain who was raggin' on them, how they were a second rate Pearl Jam, whom he already shat on....but pointing out that STP were obviously a corporate conspiracy to create a "grunge" Monkees, specifically how their name directly referenced Stone (Gossard), Temple (of the Dog)...but I simply can't rembember what the Pilots was in reference to.

Re: Band: Stone Temple Pilots

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God is my Co-Pilot, obviously.

They struck me as derivative and bland from the first listen and I never bothered paying attention to them. I also hated the name, which was prime 90's bargain-bin material that somehow made it out of the pile of generic "alternative" rock from the era.

After Kyuss was no longer the first Qotsa song I heard was The Lost Art of Keeping a Secret, and I was so disappointed Homme was making music that, to me, sounded like STP. I warmed up to Qotsa later on, but never got into the blue record.
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Re: Band: Stone Temple Pilots

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losthighway wrote: Sat Apr 22, 2023 8:39 am And let's take a minute to admire the graphic design on the cover of Core. Truly an iconic vision of early 90s tackiness.
So many bad things were done to typefaces in the 90s by people who would have been better off sticking to Letraset. Looking back at 90s album covers and advertising, it's hard to believe so many people were apparently receiving professional-grade pay for all this "my first Adobe Illustrator project" shit.

From Saul Bass to this crap in just a couple of decades.

also I think the cringe name probably hurt this band's chances being taken seriously

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