Subregion: The Deep South?

Crap
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Re: Subregion: The Deep South

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dontfeartheringo wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:41 pm Hi, hello, hello, everyone. Hello.

The Deep South is the espresso of American Capitalism. Wealth concentrated in the hands of a tiny minority, economic precarity for everyone else.

If you are not useful to capital you are Bad. If you are useful to capital (cop, worker drone, salesman, soldier), you are Good.

The way they sell this kind of economic disparity as The Correct and Right Way to Run a Railroad to a population that is majority disenfranchised from wealth is through Jesus, Patriarchy, and the Protestant Work Ethic.

Down here in Real America, this is amped up to pathological levels, but it's the same all over this great nation of ours. (see also: South Side of Chicago or East St Louis, IL)

As with everywhere in America, the majority of people in the Deep South are kind, generous, optimistic, and think of themselves as Good People. In the right circumstances, they will literally give you the shirt off of their backs. It's hard to keep the lid on Bad People (re: not useful to capital), though, if everyone is busy giving away their worldly possessions and following the Man from Galilea/Son o' God as the character was originally written.

What's that quote?
frank wilhoit wrote:Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.
America is experiencing a managed decline in material well-being for everyone except for a tiny sliver of exceedingly wealthy people. American prosperity is dissolving like Hemingway describing how a millionaire goes broke, "very gradually and then all at once." In 1946, 51% of all manufactured goods in the WORLD were produced in America. There's nowhere to go but down from there. If the Tiny Sliver people are going to continue to live at the comfort level to which they have become accustomed, they're going to have to have an army of mooks to keep Everyone Else from getting a crumb from a piece of the pie. Fortunately, there's Race, Class, and Gender to use as a motivator for the Good (useful to capital) people.

Historically, the roots of this struggle are obvious: The American South was basically a colonial state where people being forced to work for free under pain of death or mutilation. The transition of enslaved people to Free Men was met with a brutal mix of state sanctioned violence and political disenfranchisement tactics. This continues to this day. After all, in 1912, the population of Georgia was majority Black. The Klan in Georgia really hit its stride in 1915, using terror tactics and economic/political control to drive Black Georgians out of the state. (Hello, South Side of Chicago)

Georgia still has the 2nd largest population of Black people in the country, after Texas, however. When you begin to understand this dynamic through the lens of post-colonial America, the intractable nature of Southern (and American) Racism comes into much clearer focus. The police are a colonial occupation force, and because of the significantly higher representation of Black Political Power being in the South, you're going to see a much more obvious and pitched battle between entrenched power and the lives and livelihoods of its Black citizens. What's wrong with the South? Oligarchal Capitalism is what's wrong with the South. The same thing that's wrong with the rest of America.

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Re: Subregion: The Deep South

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dontfeartheringo wrote: Thu Apr 27, 2023 1:41 pm Hi, hello, hello, everyone. Hello.

The Deep South is the espresso of American Capitalism…
Yes to all of this!

DFTR, you know Georgia and North Carolina. I only know the latter. How do they compare? I’m don’t consider NC the Deep South but it sure as hell The South. If anyone doubts that then they haven’t gotten far enough off the belt line. Not sure if Georgia is the Deep South or both either. But I spent a sliver of time in Alabama and Mississippi where former in-laws had roots. It seemed fairly similar to eastern NC where I’m from but with little extras, like decoration day.

I think the difference is that demographics in Louisiana, Mississippi, and Alabama skew more dire on the whole than NC or GA. Economics, bigotry, and health care is bad throughout but the Deeper South has it all more pervasively with fewer progressive or center left influences. As such there’s likely fewer resources and an even harder time to climb up. I think the stats bear that out but I’m a bit foggy on it.

NC & GA also have that southern Appalachia thing going on and no Mississippi River thing.

That said, Crap for heat and humidity. I GTFO of here once and I’ll do it again if for no other reason. I hope to never spend another summer, hell even a day, working up on some damned roof down here. If you can hack it, god bless. At least put me in the mountains.

Re: Subregion: The Deep South

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here's another one
Flannery O'Connor wrote:The Southerner is usually tolerant of those weaknesses that proceed from innocence.
i went to ole miss and i don't know what y'all are talkin bout.
atlanta, new orleans and pensacola are just the south. when you say deeeeeeeep i think of
- fried okra + sweet tea
- first day of deer season is a holiday. only women be at the stores, if they're even open.
- everyone owns an american truck (but it's manufactured overseas now)
- poverty, dirt roads, swimming holes
- perfect butts (good to know some things never change)
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hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:15 am here's another one
Flannery O'Connor wrote:The Southerner is usually tolerant of those weaknesses that proceed from innocence.
i went to ole miss and i don't know what y'all are talkin bout.
How nice for you.
tbone wrote: Sun Dec 10, 2023 11:58 pm I imagine at some point as a practicality we will all start assuming that this is probably the last thing we gotta mail to some asshole.

Re: Subregion: The Deep South

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dontfeartheringo wrote: Mon May 01, 2023 8:58 am
hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Fri Apr 28, 2023 10:15 am here's another one
Flannery O'Connor wrote:The Southerner is usually tolerant of those weaknesses that proceed from innocence.
i went to ole miss and i don't know what y'all are talkin bout.
How nice for you.
i was referring to the non drawlers* in this thread ringo. i got you.

* of which i count myself. born in the tri state area, raised in northern virginia, live in seattle.
justice for sa'niya carter 3/11/2024-3/27/2025

Re: Subregion: The Deep South

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Have sweet, thoughtful old relatives in TX. My dad grew up there until the age of 12 or so, enough to absorb the bizarre (white) Texan identity.

Most of the people living in a bad place are good people, but I can't help but call it a bad place. Tribalism of all kinds, especially racism and religion of course, intentionally terrible public education (Texas may actually get some waffles here, at least until recently), sweet tea. Bad stuff.

Yes, sweet tea. To paraphrase George Orwell, you can make the same drink without the tea. It's one drop more diluted than syrup.

Re: Subregion: The Deep South

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I just had a great interview for a really great job here locally, but I can’t shake the twinge that I’ll be tied to this area even more. I really miss the Midwest. Yet I recognize I’m romanticizing one troubled area (rust belt) at the expense of another (the south). Maybe it’s that I grew up here and pursued dreams there. Probably. The proximity to more concerts, record stores, and local rock bands was much better in the Midwest too, but that’s also true of more desirable slices of the south.

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