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re: front fills
I wish every venue/more venues had them. Up front is usually where you want to be if you really are excited about the band but consistently the worst place to actually hear everything.

Garth wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 10:04 am re: front fills
I wish every venue/more venues had them. Up front is usually where you want to be if you really are excited about the band but consistently the worst place to actually hear everything.

Yeah, I generally find them indispensable. It's rare that there's not at least a spare wedge to use as a fill.

Ike wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 6:57 pm MONO DRUMS, COWARDS.

I stand with Ike.

Mono drums is a pretty good way to go. I do love the sound of the snare decay/reverb in stereo room mics though. My bestie just did a session in Studio B at Electrical, he sent me the ruffs and goddamn the sound of that room....I just never tire of it.

Anyway, didn't we have a similar thread to this fairly recently? I feel like I told this Zach Barocas story here already, but here it is again:

At my old loft in Boston, we were recording this song by former FM Dr Ew:



Barocas was on drums. I had the drums panned audience perspective cause that's how I roll. Zach is a man of strong opinions and I knew he preferred drummer's perspective. So they do a few takes and come into the control room to listen. I sat Drew down in my chair up front, Zach and I were back on the couch, smoking, cause that's how we rolled then. I knew it was only a matter of time before he busted me, and by the time we got to the chorus:

ZB: These drums are panned audience perspective.
me: Yessir, they are.
ZB: But that is incorrect!
me: I'm sorry but in this case you're wrong.
ZB: AND WHY IS THAT?
me: *points to Drew* cause it's his record not yours
ZB: *considers it a second, nods approval*

I'm still surprised he let me win that easy.

Working on a track in which it would almost be sacrilege to mix the drums in mono.

Am sure it has its place, though.

eh.. I've tried to convince myself that mono is best, but natural stereo (M-S, or maybe binaural) placed a few feet out wins out every time I compare the two. And yeah: a mono room mic or reverb send just seems like a bummer at this point.

AC/DC pans everything for audience perspective. That's all I need to know.