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This is an angle I hadn't considered (I don't know much about this publication or its rigor):

https://theconversation.com/police-stop ... ago-238170

"Our findings show that when speed cameras are doing the ticketing, the proportion of tickets issued to Black and white drivers aligns closely with their respective share of roadway users. With human enforcement, in contrast, police officers stop Black drivers at a rate that far outstrips their presence on the road.

For instance, on roads where half of drivers are Black, Black drivers receive approximately 54% of automated camera citations. However, they make up about 70% of police stops.

On roadways where half of the drivers are white, white drivers account for around half of automated citations – and less than 20% of police stops. "

Once this sort of thing stops happening...

https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/06/13/constr ... olice-say/

Construction worker dies after being hit by driver speeding through work zone, police say

Let's revisit.

Until then?

It is like a cop or a prosecutor.

Necessary evil.

I wish my street had them. The speeders can fuck off.

Crap. First off, they never put speed cameras where they'd help (eg- work zones). They are very obviously DESIGNED to trick you. Multiple spots here post the speed limit as 30mph, then a second sign, 20 feet beyond the first, obscured by trees or parked trucks, will say 20mph. 20 mph is fucking RIDICULOUS. It's almost difficult to idle that slowly. They should take the revenue out of the pockets of people who treat roads as drag strips. 10-fold. not people who inadvertently went 6 mph over. And dumb fuck kids who shut down the expressway to do donuts should have their cars confiscated and sold for tax revenue. And no chance of a drivers license for AT LEAST 5 years.

LuciousSandwich wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:50 pm This is an angle I hadn't considered (I don't know much about this publication or its rigor):

https://theconversation.com/police-stop ... ago-238170

"Our findings show that when speed cameras are doing the ticketing, the proportion of tickets issued to Black and white drivers aligns closely with their respective share of roadway users. With human enforcement, in contrast, police officers stop Black drivers at a rate that far outstrips their presence on the road.

For instance, on roads where half of drivers are Black, Black drivers receive approximately 54% of automated camera citations. However, they make up about 70% of police stops.

On roadways where half of the drivers are white, white drivers account for around half of automated citations – and less than 20% of police stops. "

Not Crap.

I doubt they would lose their licenses for long. If your state is anything like WA, you can have like nine DUI's and still get your license back.

Crap, I should be allowed to freely ram my two tons of personal space through all public zones without accountability at all times. Fuck you.

jeff fox wrote: Tue Oct 01, 2024 2:14 pm not people who inadvertently went 6 mph over.

The UK always had a 10% rule, so if you were within 10% of the limit the police would let it go - though that seems to be increasingly getting sidelinded.

LuciousSandwich wrote: Sun Sep 29, 2024 10:50 pm This is an angle I hadn't considered (I don't know much about this publication or its rigor):

https://theconversation.com/police-stop ... ago-238170

"Our findings show that when speed cameras are doing the ticketing, the proportion of tickets issued to Black and white drivers aligns closely with their respective share of roadway users. With human enforcement, in contrast, police officers stop Black drivers at a rate that far outstrips their presence on the road.

For instance, on roads where half of drivers are Black, Black drivers receive approximately 54% of automated camera citations. However, they make up about 70% of police stops.

On roadways where half of the drivers are white, white drivers account for around half of automated citations – and less than 20% of police stops. "

This is a good argument in favor of them.

tallchris wrote: Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:04 pm I’m all for speed cameras but tickets should be based on a percentage of income, not a flat rate for all, otherwise the wealthy just don’t give a shit.

I dunno. My experience is that wealthy take ANY aspersion of their Extra Special Status as a personal affront and will huff and puff and show up in court to contest this sort of thing because HOW DARE THEY, etc.