ChudFusk wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 6:04 pm I always thought Prong was a drum machine band.

I always chalked that up to Dodson on those first two major label records and Date on the last two.

With the wrong band, what Date does can come off pretty frosty.

numberthirty wrote: Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:57 pm With the wrong band, what Date does can come off pretty frosty.

Yep.


Dobson work is a bit better for them I think. Prove you wrong was probably the only record of them that I kinda like the drums. Less rigid and cold.

I would vote for Anthrax's Sound of White Noise if it were on the list. I think they did a decent job of bridging their earlier thrash sound with the then new "groove" influences, Plus I always prefer John Bush as a vocalist over Joey Bellandonna, who always sounded cartoonish to me.

Nothing to do w/'90s groove metal, but Ted Parsons (Prong drummer) does not play in a remotely sterile fashion on the first Of Cabbages and Kings EP from 1987. He sounds really muscular and reckless on that thing. Totally different style. Excellent player, excellent record.

My suspicion is that Michael Gira had Parsons play in a machinelike fashion when he was in Swans during the mid '80s. Tommy Victor probably wanted that same semi-industrial sound in his rhythm section for Prong, mating it w/hardcore and thrash and, much later, dat funkee honkee groove.

numberthirty wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:44 pm

M.H wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 3:15 pm

Vibracobra wrote: Tue Oct 31, 2023 4:41 am La sexorcisto is fine but the production sucks.

There's a great remaster of that record on the Let Sleeping Corpses Lie box set that rights a few early 90s Andy Wallace-isms wrongs.

Production ain't all there is to a band.

Whatever the album lacked? This did not.

Always thought J. Yuenger of WZ had an interesting guitar style. Kinda cool mix of punk, metal and psychedelic ideas. The fact he came from a hardcore background (he played Chicago teenage HC punks - Rights of the Accused) kind shows through sometimes.

I think people are missing the point entirely with Parsons. Should be noted that it's unlikely he ever set out to "groove" in the first place.

Enjoyed those Hayzi Fantayzi videos above, but let's keep on topic.

Who grooved the hardest?

Of those listed, Chaos AD/Roots era Sepultura.

Andreas Kisser was my favorite musician out of the listed bands.

Krev wrote: Mon Jan 08, 2024 9:45 am Andreas Kisser was my favorite musician out of the listed bands.

God no, just look at every single thing he did post-Roots.