Marquee Moon wins this one.

I only like a few tracks on Horses, though I do think Patti Smith is a very good writer. Just Kids is great.

The Ramones

On paper Marquee Moon reads like it would be a thing for me, and I've tried, oh, how I've tried for decades to succumb to its charms I know are in there somewhere, but thus far have managed to elude me.

Horses is another one that never took root.

Write-in vote for L.A.M.F

dfglv wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 12:55 pm Billy Ficca's drumming is incredible.

Absolutely. Billy makes the hi-hat dance...along with the rest of the drum kit. I'm convinced that his breathing is musical.

Clyde wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 8:02 am MM and it's not at all close.

Seconded.

pet fever detector wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:03 pm i've never listened to Horses, no one's ever recommended it to me, put it on while hanging out or heard it at a party. being a big music nerd for nearly 20 years, this seems like an indictment.

Marquee Moon is a masterpiece.

this is exactly how I feel about the matter.

Marquee Moon, and it's not even close.

Voted for Marquee Moon, come on, now.

I used to actively dislike the Patti Smith Group. As others have mentioned, it sounds way too much like a bar band or the hippie stuff that punk was allegedly reacting against. Nowadays, I can find the worth in it in very small doses, and I'd take Radio Ethiopia over Horses, as well. But it's not really anything I'd go out of my way for.

Marquee Moon is a big, sprawling, guitar-hero LP w/a dash of punk energy. Which is way more exciting than poetry backed by slightly fancy garage rock. (You can also hear a bit of Television's m.o. boiled down and simplified into an expressionistic avant-drone via stuff like Glenn Branca's Lesson No. 1 or Rhys Chatham's Die Dönnergotter. So points for that.)

I prefer Blank Generation to both Patti and TV. Largely b/c of Mr. Quine's leads. And No New York makes all of it sound seriously fucking tame, but maybe that's a different beast.

The mention of LAMF is kinda interesting. That record is certainly the grimiest of the bunch.

OrthodoxEaster wrote: Fri Dec 01, 2023 10:35 am The mention of LAMF is kinda interesting. That record is certainly the grimiest of the bunch.

A spectacularly ragged and raucous album - one of the rawest elemental rock moments. Somewhere between the Stooges and the Stones but w/ the sleaziest of grooves and some (surprisingly) sweet melodies.

Obvs J.T is the man but that band were all ass kickers, Walter Lure is the spark, IMO.

L.A.M.F. vs Marquee Moon would be a cool dual guitar face off - dirtiness vs cleanliness...

I'm aware this is reductionist but when I think of NYC punk I think grit, noise, and rock. For the purposes of this thread/poll it's also superfluous but I do feel it's at least partly why Marquee Moon has never clicked, though it's certainly melodic. OK, changed mind.

MM

I'm still proudly standing alone in my vote for Horses.

This album is in my top ten of all time. It demonstrates an astonishing talent. A coming together of parts greater than the whole. An alignment of the stars.

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