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losthighway wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 5:31 pm Similarly, I borrow the heavily Australian "No worries", but at least I don't accidentally slap on an accent. Probably in part because the Australian pronunciation of the word 'no' is nearly inimitable and seemingly contains 5 different vowel sounds.

"No worries" is kind of formal for New Zealand these days and has largely been replaced with "sweet as".

Moana has got everything that Frozen has got and more, except for multi-dimensional characters and a plot. Too bad. The production design is fantastic. The freestyle adaption of Polynesian culture in a Disney movie is by some miracle actually not offensive. The songs are good; Opetaia Foa'i provides a much-needed contrast to Lin-Manuel Miranda's over-the-top Broadway style, which is also begrudgingly not annoying. The Rock is fun. All the razamatazz is there, song and dance, action, comedy. Kids won't mind that it all makes no sense. They won't mind plenty enough for me to have seen it a whole bunch of times.

I wouldn't mind either, except Frozen unexpectedly set a high standard with a cast-iron structure that Kubrick would have approved, an appreciation that has only grown in me over the one hundred plus viewings that I took in during the Great Frozen Period. And then Moana comes along and it's like half a dozen different script treatments clumsily mashed together, and Moana is such a Mary-Sue, you know?

I feel like I’m having a stroke

Anthony Flack wrote: Fri May 17, 2024 9:04 pm Moana has got everything that Frozen has got and more, except for multi-dimensional characters and a plot. Too bad. The production design is fantastic. The freestyle adaption of Polynesian culture in a Disney movie is by some miracle actually not offensive. The songs are good; Opetaia Foa'i provides a much-needed contrast to Lin-Manuel Miranda's over-the-top Broadway style, which is also begrudgingly not annoying. The Rock is fun. All the razamatazz is there, song and dance, action, comedy. Kids won't mind that it all makes no sense. They won't mind plenty enough for me to have seen it a whole bunch of times.

I wouldn't mind either, except Frozen unexpectedly set a high standard with a cast-iron structure that Kubrick would have approved, an appreciation that has only grown in me over the one hundred plus viewings that I took in during the Great Frozen Period. And then Moana comes along and it's like half a dozen different script treatments clumsily mashed together, and Moana is such a Mary-Sue, you know?

No. He's right. I've seen these films and it checks out.

The correct answer lies between the two. So the choices are incorrect. I’m with Chad in that saying “you’re welcome” when someone says “thank you” feels almost like reading a script rather than a genuine response, even though it may be linguistically correct in that particular moment. I find that things like sure thing, you bet, anytime, No sweat. Things like that tend to work.

To Tom Nichols, the author of the offending post, I would say that the 20 and 30-year-olds that I know today are some of the nicest and most polite, genuine people you’ll ever meet. He has misread this situation.

Depends on the context as usual.
If it’s a customer service interaction, sure, read the script. You’re welcome. I don’t care.

Sometimes thank you means good bye. That’s when I say you’re welcome sarcastically. (Did that my last day at work.)

Sometimes thank you is sarcastic. That’s when i say “don’t mention it.”

What I try to avoid is thank you in response to thank you. It feels lazy to me. If I really mean it, there’s usually a better choice of words to express that.

Back on topic… Moana, Mr Flack is correct Disney managed a film about Polynesian culture that didn’t suck. In fact for a lot of Polynesian kids it was a really empowering film.

I left NZ prior to a new wave of slang so No Worries is my default over Sweet As or Chur Bro. Interestingly I recently discovered my regional accent is the only rhotic English in the southern hemisphere.

Gramsci wrote:
I left NZ prior to a new wave of slang so No Worries is my default over Sweet As or Chur Bro. Interestingly I recently discovered my regional accent is the only rhotic English in the southern hemisphere.

I thought Aussies kept their Rs on some words, but I have Crocodile Dundee, Nick Cave and Bluey in my head and I'm realizing I might be wrong about that. At least from that realistic cross section of regional speakers.

About as off topic, but I've always loved the notion that the farther reaching cultures of the British Isles were protected from pseudo-French non-rhotic pretensions thanks to distance from London and working class grit. I just love the image of a Scot, Irish or West Country bloke giving directions to a posh Brit who's asking them how "fah away it is" and then answering exactly how "farrr". More fascinating how these class implications and folksy charm are reversed in Boston in spite of the gilded pretensions of its origins.

Whoa, way off topic.

You're welcome,
Dwayne "the Rock" Dorkface

It’s all down to timing. British English used to sound more like American English in the 1700s and there was a shift to non rhotic hence laters colonial invasions carrying non rhotic English to their new land theft.

American English is closer to Shakespearean pronunciation than modern Received Pronunciation British English.

You’re welcome

Man, life is hard enough already. Say thank you. Say you’re welcome, or words to that effect. Acknowledge people.

Even if it’s a rote response to the clerk at Trader Joe’s, say it (or words like it). It costs you nothing.