The only band I’ve heard that really overtly tried to cop the Melvins sound are Eye Flys, and it’s the most boring uninspired shit ever.

The Melvins have been extremely hit and miss for a long time. Their best stuff (Ozma, Gluey Porch Treatments, Bullhead, Houdini, and about half of each of the first two Big Business merged ones) is entirely unfuckwithable, though. Buzz is an idiot, but the trend of writing the band off entirely is getting overdone and becoming itself a sacred-cow-level assumption.

I’ve said this before, but almost all Stooges songs are 3-4 times longer than they need to be.

Don't Look Up: way too silly to serve as a meaningful warning and full of overrated actors. The only moving parts were the brief shots of nature that will be wiped out by climate change long before a meteor arrives..

penningtron wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:10 am Don't Look Up: way too silly to serve as a meaningful warning and full of overrated actors. The only moving parts were the brief shots of nature that will be wiped out by climate change long before a meteor arrives..

Come on now, that's nowhere near being a sacred cow.

A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:44 am

penningtron wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:10 am Don't Look Up: way too silly to serve as a meaningful warning and full of overrated actors. The only moving parts were the brief shots of nature that will be wiped out by climate change long before a meteor arrives..

Come on now, that's nowhere near being a sacred cow.

True as it's like a week old, but I've heard mostly praise for it so far.

jason from volo wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 1:01 pm

HeavenIsInYrBeard wrote: Wed Dec 29, 2021 12:35 pm Punk as a genre is over-sanctified and threw far too many babies out with the bathwater. There is just as much bad punk as there is bad psychedelia, and several first generation punk bands became just as ossified as the prog rock behemoths they sought to overthrow.

Difficult to disagree, particularly when emphasizing "punk as a genre" and not punk as a state of mind.

"(White Man) in Hammersmith Palais" by The Clash is one of my favorite songs of the era as it kind of makes your same point but at the same time also sort of exposes The Clash as hypocritical (I don't think Strummer would have even denied this). They would then go on to make a couple of classic rock albums.

Was never a big fan myself - preferred the Damned and the Buzzcocks - but I can understand why the Clash's righteous anger could have had mass appeal given the political climate in the UK at the time (and which would of course become even more pronounced under Thatcher). Nonetheless by the time they released "Cut the Crap" even people I knew who'd been fans since the beginning thought it was time for them to call it a day. Similarly the Damned lost me with their mid-80s goth phase.

I suspect I'm not alone in thinking that the ripples caused by UK punk were more interesting than the initial splash, expect perhaps for Wire - who were post-punk before punk - and the Fall, whose connection with the scene seemed more an accident of timing than anything else. I don't know enough about the various regional punk scenes in the States to be able to comment definitively on that , but going by what I've heard (Mission of Burma, Sleepers, Husker Du, Minutemen, Replacements, Squirrelbait, Big Black, Wipers etc.) I suspect that may have been the case on the other side of the pond too.

penningtron wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:19 am

A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:44 am

penningtron wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:10 am Don't Look Up: way too silly to serve as a meaningful warning and full of overrated actors. The only moving parts were the brief shots of nature that will be wiped out by climate change long before a meteor arrives..

Come on now, that's nowhere near being a sacred cow.

True as it's like a week old, but I've heard mostly praise for it so far.

Is that from people you know? Because every review I've seen is panning it.

penningtron wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:01 am Harvey Milk are what the Melvins aspired to be.

Frankie99 wrote: Sleep is their own category of awesome.

These remind me of something I thought about recently (while on a Harvey Milk kick), which is “the only good band of a subgenre”, like The Specials and The Pogues.

Curry Pervert wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:04 pm

penningtron wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:19 am

A_Man_Who_Tries wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:44 am Come on now, that's nowhere near being a sacred cow.

True as it's like a week old, but I've heard mostly praise for it so far.

Is that from people you know? Because every review I've seen is panning it.

Rotten Tomatoes is showing 55% critics and 77% audience for Don't Look Up. I personally gave it a 6.25 out of 10. So I'm almost exactly in the middle. I thought Melancholia was a LOT better. It's showing 80% critics and 67% audience. Normally I side with the audience on there so I'm not sure what that says about these two meteor disaster films.

Don't Look Up was fine. Not great. Most of what I saw on social media were people panning it. I laughed out loud a few times. I guess that's all I can really ask for.

Nina Nastasia. What you all hear in her music that you love, I don't hear it.

zircona1 wrote: Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:41 pm Nina Nastasia. What you all hear in her music that you love, I don't hear it.

Do you dig much by way of singer songwriters?