Ron Paul?

No way he will get the nomination
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He has a chance of the nomination, but he could never beat the Democrats
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Paul in '08!
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Skronk wrote:
big_dave wrote:
Skronk wrote:It's complete circles when we talk. :roll:


Because you're a contrarian. You seem to care more about disagreeing than you care about being right or wrong. Which is sorta good, I guess.


I don't actively set out to disagree with you, because then I'd have to take you seriously. We don't see eye to eye on most things, but my love for Welsh humor trumps my cynicism:

big_dave wrote:Pit Bulls are really smart handsome dogs, but they love the taste of toddlers.


Yerrr alright, gizza pint

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big_dave wrote:You have a PBF avatar not an Achewood avatar. Talk about contarian.


This one's called "Food Fight", it reminds me of our lengthy conversations:

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big_dave wrote:But seriously, this will illustrate the difference:

Tender is functional. It comes from the verb "tender" meaning to deliver or translate a value.

Currency is representational. Coming from a noun, a current is a measure of something flowing forwards, or something that is always contemporary.


Currency has another meaning, namely the money you use. An American dollar, is currency. Our fiat money is our currency.

Bill = Currency
Federal Reserve Note = Currency

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Marsupialized wrote:I want a piano made out of jello.
It's the only way I'll be able to achieve the sound I hear in my head.

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Rick Reuben wrote:You're still hopelessly confused, and now you're making it worse by throwing the word 'bill' into your sloppy mess. There are only three terms in question here:

Notes.

Currency.

Legal Tender.


But you started claiming that the currency was the "federal reserve bill". Bill! Bill! Bill!

A bill is a piece of paper given to record the fact that a value or entitlement has been exchanged. You used this word first and I added it to my response.

US Federal Reserve Notes are the legal currency and the legal tender. Do you see how they're all the same? Your retarded efforts to derail this discussion into 'what is currency?' and 'what is tender?' just shows how threadbare your argument in favor of fiat currency is. So threadbare that you invent new trollery to avoid making it.


I don't see how they are the same. If they were the same we wouldn't have stockmarkets, ATM machines and cheque books. We'd just have bills.

No. It's the Treasury's own web site that uses the words currency, note and tender interchangeably. 'bill' means nothing to the discussion of fiat currency, which is surely why you are throwing it in, like a monkey and his feces.


Still doesn't make you right, or give an creedence to your dozy insults. I'm sure I can find something on the WOH website that uses Germs/Virus interchangibly or Cancer/Tumour. Appealing to authority does nothing.
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You're arguing semantics now, everyday usage of "bill" refers to currency.

Big_Dave wrote:
I don't see how they are the same. If they were the same we wouldn't have stockmarkets, ATM machines and cheque books. We'd just have bills.
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Marsupialized wrote:I want a piano made out of jello.
It's the only way I'll be able to achieve the sound I hear in my head.

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Rick Reuben wrote:The Federal Reserve Note *is* the currency and that is what makes it the legal tender. If ONLY the FRN is the currency, and ONLY the FRN is legal tender, then there is no distinction between currency, note, and tender in the world of US paper money.


There is no difference? At all?

Baby out with bathwater, yet again.

Even so, you're wrong but I'll pretend that you're right and say this: in the UK and Europe, and most Western nations there most definitely is a difference.

You wrote this, and you were wrong.
big_dave wrote:Coins and notes are not currency in themselves, they are legal tender.

You wrote this, and you were wrong.
big_dave wrote:Tender is not currency.

Nothing you have posted has made these statements less wrong.


I was right!

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big_dave wrote:There is no difference? At all?

Baby out with bathwater, yet again.

Even so, you're wrong but I'll pretend that you're right and say this: in the UK and Europe, and most Western nations there most definitely is a difference.


Ever since the first mention of currency, we've been talking about US money. What's your excuse this time?
Marsupialized wrote:I want a piano made out of jello.
It's the only way I'll be able to achieve the sound I hear in my head.

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Skronk wrote:You're arguing semantics now, everyday usage of "bill" refers to currency.

Big_Dave wrote:
I don't see how they are the same. If they were the same we wouldn't have stockmarkets, ATM machines and cheque books. We'd just have bills.


An interchangable daily usage doesn't mean an interchangable legal value.

I'm not fucking with daily usage. I wouldn't want to say "monies" instead of "money" and "premises" instead of "apartment" and "house".

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