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c jury wrote: Sun Oct 09, 2022 9:52 pm All over but the shouting on the bass- just waiting for some Gotoh's to show up on Monday.
-Really proud of this one. There were tons of new technical challenges to solve, and keeping the weight down was more work, just being so much larger.
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It's been a while since I posted any serious luthier-type work...I try to keep that constrained to work, rather than free time. But this is likely the last 'traditional' headstock spline job I will do. Now that I own a milling machine I will put together a nice fixture and will switch over to smaller 1/4" slots and carbon fiber rods. Less exciting, but more efficient.
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I got to spend some quality time with the mill this week, channeled out the neck and got a bunch of the underside removed.
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VaticanShotglass wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:21 pm The carbon fiber rod repair method sounds interesting. Any comparative experience?

Also, here's a youtube channel I find relaxing. He's done a lot of Gibson headstock repairs using a spline method that looks like the one you are using here. Mostly acoustic stuff, but I find it interesting to see him craft so much by hand. https://www.youtube.com/user/twoodfrd
The carbon fiber part is maybe a bit overblown, as I'd expect that a good matching wood spline would be just as functional. But the upshot is that with a mill you can be super accurate about placement of the spline, putting one on each side of the truss rod, without routing away anywhere near as much material. The traditional method takes about 3/8 to 1/2 inch. And because of the location and size it then involves about 30 minutes of hand shaping just to get a good fit into the slots, then another hour of hand shaping to make everything smooth. with a milled slot, it is exactly the correct width, and the shaping can be minimal, as there is original neck material on every side and you're just blending in.

I get paid by the hour at the shop, rather than a job rate- but I still like to be quick, and I have more work than I really care for just keeping up w/ the setups, pickup swaps and such. Plus if I'm going to spend so much time building my aluminum neck instruments I really don't want to be sitting there all day fussing with stuff.

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c jury wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:31 pm
VaticanShotglass wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:21 pm The carbon fiber rod repair method sounds interesting. Any comparative experience?

Also, here's a youtube channel I find relaxing. He's done a lot of Gibson headstock repairs using a spline method that looks like the one you are using here. Mostly acoustic stuff, but I find it interesting to see him craft so much by hand. https://www.youtube.com/user/twoodfrd
The carbon fiber part is maybe a bit overblown, as I'd expect that a good matching wood spline would be just as functional. But the upshot is that with a mill you can be super accurate about placement of the spline, putting one on each side of the truss rod, without routing away anywhere near as much material. The traditional method takes about 3/8 to 1/2 inch. And because of the location and size it then involves about 30 minutes of hand shaping just to get a good fit into the slots, then another hour of hand shaping to make everything smooth. with a milled slot, it is exactly the correct width, and the shaping can be minimal, as there is original neck material on every side and you're just blending in.

I get paid by the hour at the shop, rather than a job rate- but I still like to be quick, and I have more work than I really care for just keeping up w/ the setups, pickup swaps and such. Plus if I'm going to spend so much time building my aluminum neck instruments I really don't want to be sitting there all day fussing with stuff.
Super glad you got the mill and it's paying off. if you don't follow them, https://www.instagram.com/frank_brothers/?hl=en in Toronto I feel like has done everything right in so far as buying the equipment that will net the greatest benefit, and they have a lot of nice little tricks. Great design for their guitars too. "Make an SG but Devo, and add a volute because it was a good idea, screw Gibson purists"

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c jury wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 11:31 pm
VaticanShotglass wrote: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:21 pm The carbon fiber rod repair method sounds interesting. Any comparative experience?

Also, here's a youtube channel I find relaxing. He's done a lot of Gibson headstock repairs using a spline method that looks like the one you are using here. Mostly acoustic stuff, but I find it interesting to see him craft so much by hand. https://www.youtube.com/user/twoodfrd
The carbon fiber part is maybe a bit overblown, as I'd expect that a good matching wood spline would be just as functional. But the upshot is that with a mill you can be super accurate about placement of the spline, putting one on each side of the truss rod, without routing away anywhere near as much material. The traditional method takes about 3/8 to 1/2 inch. And because of the location and size it then involves about 30 minutes of hand shaping just to get a good fit into the slots, then another hour of hand shaping to make everything smooth. with a milled slot, it is exactly the correct width, and the shaping can be minimal, as there is original neck material on every side and you're just blending in.

I get paid by the hour at the shop, rather than a job rate- but I still like to be quick, and I have more work than I really care for just keeping up w/ the setups, pickup swaps and such. Plus if I'm going to spend so much time building my aluminum neck instruments I really don't want to be sitting there all day fussing with stuff.
Yeah, dude. You also have to think of your sanity in these matters.

Headstock repairs are fascinating in a sort of morbid way. All well beyond me to comment, but I can rubberneck on this all day. It looks like such a pain in the ass. Lots of these topics come up in the video below. I have no opinion except that it is enjoyable to watch the process.

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Realized I had posted pics of #4 elsewhere, but forgot to do so here, where it actually matters.
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And here is the receiver for #6, all flat work is done- this week will get to shaping the neck
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I stepped the headstock down to final thickness. This will receive a nice radius with a 3/4" ball end mill
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And here is the body- Cherry and poplar- will roundover and cut reliefs this week.
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