cakes wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:34 am
rsmurphy wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:00 am
I don't understand why he is still referred to as President Trump. Barack Obama doesn't receive the same courtesy and he served two terms and didn't incite a insurrection or refuse to return classified documents or admit to sexually assaulting women or end-up adjudicated for sexually assaulting a woman or mock a differently-abled reporter and so on and so forth.
They (the serious adults in media) really do go out of their way to legitimize Trump. They can't call him out as a crazy lunatic, because that would be admitting Trump is really their fault.
Totally. And not to veer off too much into tin foil hat territory that is also why the Epstein files are dead in the water because to be fully transparent would incriminate a lot of powerful people on both sides and in many industries.
"They want to perform transfender surgery on illegal immigrants in prisons."
And I thought, "They're eating dogs," was going to be the craziest thing said of the evening.
I believe he really believes the nutball shit he says, and part of me also believes that his handlers or whatever feeds him this nonsense or casually look away when he's spouting it in the service of self-sabotage. Sure, they'd like to have Project 2025 implemented and continue on their path of returning America to its former patriarchal glory, but they really don't
need him anymore. I'm sure the lot of them would love for him to go away and so they give him as much rope as needed to finish the job.
rsmurphy wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 8:00 am
I don't understand why he is still referred to as President Trump. Barack Obama doesn't receive the same courtesy and he served two terms and didn't incite a insurrection or refuse to return classified documents or admit to sexually assaulting women or end-up adjudicated for sexually assaulting a woman or mock a differently-abled reporter and so on and so forth.
enframed wrote:Sure he does, a lot, all former presidents get that. Not everyone addresses all of them that way all the time, but I have certainly heard Obama called that.
I hear him called "Mr. Obama" moreso than "President Obama." It's a quibble but it also feels like cakes said a way for the media to legitimize him.