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Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:21 pm
by rocker654_Archive
Skronk wrote:zom-zom wrote:True. However, when we recorded our first album in 1982, there was one recording studio in town. Now every jackass with a laptop and a few piece-of-shit Studio Microphones and some plug-ins has a Recording Studio.
And that's a bad thing how? The individual has taken control, chooses how to record and distribute. Sure, this hurts regular studios, but only up to a point. The normal recording studio won't be phased out like an 8-track tape. Studios will have to evolve or die, to keep up with home recording.
In my case, if I can do it for cheaper at home, then that's where I'll do it. With that being said, I'd still like to record in professional studio, like Albini's.
zom-zom wrote:Besides cheapening the recording profession, I think it's lowered the standards for bands and performances. Some overly-enthusiastic recording "engineer" clod telling you how much you rock in exchange for your $25/hour.
Who wants the "clod" in any situation? I'd rather record at home, then listen to a jerk off telling me how much "I rock", or how the songs should sound.
zom-zom wrote:Many years ago I said the best thing and the worst thing that Punk Rock spawned was the idea that everybody could start a band. I liked it better when being in a band gave one the aura of being some sort of weirdo to most of the squares. Now everyone is in some horse-shit band, covered in ink. Barff.
There's nothing special about being in a band. The specialness is in the moment, when you play. Everyone starting a band, and being able to record is a godsend. No one's making us sit through shitty bands, or forcing us to engage with some out-of-touch asswipe that owns a label, or a studio. I think by now, most of the people on this forum have the keen ability to ignore, or block out complete garbage.
I do see the positive aspect of being able to self-record and self-distribute your own music. There is no ass kissing, dealing with label idiots, and bullshit that has nothing to do with the actual music involved. This was not an option for people before, and a lot of good talent was undiscovered because they didn't play the game correctly.
But now, EVERYONE can record something and make it available within an hour. There's a lot more good stuff and crap stuff to wade through, which dilutes the experience.
If someone on the forum has posted their MySpace address, there's a very good chance that I've checked it out. If something outright sucked, I chose not to say anything. If something was good, I would make a post praising them publicly.
People are just faced with too much content now that the price to make it available has dropped to zero. That's a good thing and a bad thing, and I don't know how to make it better.
Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:35 pm
by Skronk_Archive
I, personally, don't wade through bad music. The bad music will get forgotten, (unless a major label intervenes) and the good will get around. I'm open to pretty much everything, but if it sucks, I press the "close" button on the browser quicker than the Flash.
Just to clarify the whole Studio vs. Home-Recording thing, I think both are very good aspects of the same thing. I think for home recording, a lot can be done, if you know your tech. A studio should always exist, that has the tried-and-true equipment, not pro-tools.
A home setup, should be very straightforward, just a program, a couple of mics, and a small mixer. I can't stand it when I read about expensive studios where all they have is pro-tools, and a mouse.
Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:35 pm
by Minotaur029_Archive
Bands still "don't play the game correctly" and go undiscovered, rocker. There is a new tool (the internet), but times aren't too much different than they've ever been.
This "too much content" argument that I always hear over and over again bores me. If there's "too much content," then it's because you're not using the tool (internet) correctly.
Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:37 pm
by trilonaut_Archive
rocker654 wrote:I do see the positive aspect of being able to self-record and self-distribute your own music. There is no ass kissing, dealing with label idiots, and bullshit that has nothing to do with the actual music involved. This was not an option for people before, and a lot of good talent was undiscovered because they didn't play the game correctly.
yes.
rocker654 wrote:But now, EVERYONE can record something and make it available within an hour. There's a lot more good stuff and crap stuff to wade through, which dilutes the experience.
well... that's the way it should be. everyone having freedom to publish, and the fans/connoisseurs aren't the ones who get their hands on something "obscure" (since that is everywhere) but those who have the energy and passion to seek out stuff they love amongst the mass of material.
People are just faced with too much content now that the price to make it available has dropped to zero. That's a good thing and a bad thing, and I don't know how to make it better.
it's a good thing -- if people can't handle choices let's face it the hard way rather than skip around it by making it the major label system / two party system / coke pepsi system.
Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 6:48 pm
by rocker654_Archive
trilonaut wrote:it's a good thing -- if people can't handle choices let's face it the hard way rather than skip around it by making it the major label system / two party system / coke pepsi system.
Very true. There were a lot less choices in the past, therefore making it easier to evaluate and make decisions. Fewer multiple choice decisions.
An interesting point........
Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:18 pm
by Minotaur029_Archive
Skronk wrote:I, personally, don't wade through bad music. The bad music will get forgotten, (unless a major label intervenes) and the good will get around. I'm open to pretty much everything, but if it sucks, I press the "close" button on the browser quicker than the Flash.
Just to clarify the whole Studio vs. Home-Recording thing, I think both are very good aspects of the same thing. I think for home recording, a lot can be done, if you know your tech. A studio should always exist, that has the tried-and-true equipment, not pro-tools.
A home setup, should be very straightforward, just a program, a couple of mics, and a small mixer. I can't stand it when I read about expensive studios where all they have is pro-tools, and a mouse.
I don't know...I've seen some
really nice home set-ups...I see no reason to not have a pretty sweet studio in your very own home. I don't know what was in Steve's former home studio, but I imagine there was some nice shit in there.
Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:23 pm
by Skronk_Archive
Unless you record other bands, I don't see the need for going all out. If I want a complete package, I'd buy time in a studio. But that's just me.
Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 7:31 pm
by Minotaur029_Archive
Skronk wrote:Unless you record other bands, I don't see the need for going all out. If I want a complete package, I'd buy time in a studio. But that's just me.
Ah, I see. I meant home studios used for recording bands in addition to one's own band. These studios can rule...sometimes they're basically actual studios...I've seen some sick set ups...
Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 8:43 pm
by Colonel Panic_Archive
How did this thread go from listing 10 flawless albums to criticizing the proliferation of pro-am recording gear?
Ten Perfect Albums
Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:29 pm
by Minotaur029_Archive
Colonel Panic wrote:How did this thread go from listing 10 flawless albums to criticizing the proliferation of pro-am recording gear?
My advice would be to read the thread...tangents happen, yo.