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Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:58 pm
by Gramsci
Krev wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:53 pm Trump is the most mentally-ill person I've seen on TV, and I saw GG Allin on Jerry Springer.
It’s kind of sadder because it’s not a bit.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:12 pm
by hbiden@onlyfans.com
Gramsci wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:53 pm There’s zero chance the US government is going suddenly give public healthcare to an infinitesimally small section of the population.
I can see it happening under the guise of life “affirming care.”
And since they are such a minority it won’t cost much.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:23 pm
by Gramsci
There’s zero chance someone’s getting gender reassignment surgery when poor kids can’t get heart operations.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:26 pm
by hbiden@onlyfans.com
Gramsci wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:23 pm There’s zero chance someone’s getting gender reassignment surgery when poor kids can’t get heart operations.
That’s not the point anyway
The point is Harris wants it to happen but trump is the crazy one for pointing it out.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:51 pm
by losthighway
hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:26 pm
Gramsci wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:23 pm There’s zero chance someone’s getting gender reassignment surgery when poor kids can’t get heart operations.
That’s not the point anyway
The point is Harris wants it to happen but trump is the crazy one for pointing it out.
Your phrasing here is weirdly right wing and decontextualized.

Context: incarcerated people are in the care of the state. The state provides their healthcare. For some tiny minority of those incarcerated people gender-related care is part of their health picture.

You can skip to one branch of that tree of causality and end it with "Harris wants...." and not technically be a liar. But, like, wouldn't you rather let Sean Hannity say that kind of shit?

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:11 pm
by hbiden@onlyfans.com
losthighway wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:51 pm
hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:26 pm
Gramsci wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 1:23 pm There’s zero chance someone’s getting gender reassignment surgery when poor kids can’t get heart operations.
That’s not the point anyway
The point is Harris wants it to happen but trump is the crazy one for pointing it out.
Your phrasing here is weirdly right wing and decontextualized.

Context: incarcerated people are in the care of the state. The state provides their healthcare. For some tiny minority of those incarcerated people gender-related care is part of their health picture.

You can skip to one branch of that tree of causality and end it with "Harris wants...." and not technically be a liar. But, like, wouldn't you rather let Sean Hannity say that kind of shit?
why? so we can call sean hannity a crazy right winger too?
i'm not trying to make a "technical" argument. i'm asking why can't trump cite her record if she's so proud of it? it was one of the few honest things he said on that stage.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 2:45 pm
by Frankie99
hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 12:23 pm
Frankie99 wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 9:21 am
hbiden@onlyfans.com wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 11:30 pm You can say it’s reasonable
But when trump says it out loud it’s “crazy” and Harris laughs it off.
"Now she wants to do Transgender operations on illegal aliens that are already in prison."

That's the exact quote from Trump, which is, yes, crazy.

Operative phrase "to do."
“To do” is the crazy phrase??

I don’t understand how you can misinterpret that. Do you think that means involuntary surgery?
We all know he meant. She supports funding them, just like she plainly wrote.
Yes. We do all know what he meant. And his quote remains crazy.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:00 pm
by Wood Goblin
It only seems like an “honest” statement because it’s normal politician dishonesty: “XXX wants our tax dollars to go to ZZZ!” Mountain-out-of-a-molehill bullshit. That’s the closest you’ll get to honesty out of Trump, because he’s graded on a curve. It only looks “honest” because it’s not “immigrants want to eat your pets” or “derp-derp rake the forests.”

It’s crazy because the hysteria about trans issues is crazy.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:15 pm
by Gramsci
Wood Goblin wrote: Thu Sep 12, 2024 3:00 pm
It’s crazy because the hysteria about trans issues is crazy.
Exactly. It’s a niche of niche issue. I’m sure it’s incredibly important to people in that community but that it’s a topic of discussion in modern politics is ludicrous. Just give people that need healthcare, healthcare. I was actually pretty happy during the UK election when the Tories tried weaponising it Starmer just stared them down.

Re: Politics

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2024 4:51 pm
by Anthony Flack
enframed wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 9:46 pm
Anthony Flack wrote: Wed Sep 11, 2024 3:44 pm The NYT's never-ending quest to measure which side of the mouth undecided voters are drooling out of had their pen of bovines come out in favour of Trump as the better debate performance. Oh well, none of their votes count anyway, just like none of yours probably do.
The NYT wrote that Trump had the better performance? Link?
No, the "undecided" voters that the NYT always manages to find down the back of the sofa and interview said they thought that Trump had the better performance.