only here wrote:and today i will defend the lion...

spoon wrote:

punch_the_lion wrote: Despite the large influx of Spanish immigrants, they still represent the minority and I don't see them surpassing the caucasian and black ( or African-American depending on the nomenclature) population that speaks predominately English. The offspring of these immigrants will have been educated in public schools to speak English but seeing something progress to that stage is too radical.

Latinos (or Hispanics) are the current largest minority in the U.S. surpassing the Black population accoriding to that last census. That was around 13% not counting those that are illegal.

that may be, but that's not what lion said. he said that the english speaking population outnumbers the spanish [speaking] minority. and he's right of course. he compared one latino population to ONE caucasian and black population. one for one.
i don't know what happened after that, but i hope this clears it up.
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There is nothing to clear up...I quoted what he said and posted to that point.

Andrew L. wrote:
Hey! Clocker Bob, regarding union labor:

What do you say, Bob?

I did say, three days ago. Going through another lazy phase, or going back to being a big baby again?

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Bob, my point, and I think vilna's too, is that worker solidarity is transnational. For you, it stops at the border. You've got some weird nativist stuff going on. Like vilna, I don't much buy into the category of 'the proletariat,' but just as capital is multinational, so too resistance is without borders.

And you sure have a lot of respect for The Law given that the entire system and every law passed is coordinated by your cabal of baddies.

My parents 'took in' a Cambodian refugee when I was young. He was 16 when he moved into our house, didn't speak a word of English, and had spent 3 years on the run from the Khmer Rouge. He's a welder now with two beautiful daughters. Sends money to his mom in Cambodia every month. He arrived as a legal refugee, but my parents' community have also harbored illegal immigrants denied refugee status.

My parents are kind of like the Flanders. They're do-gooders (Mennonites).They go to church every Sunday. But they aren't reactionaries like you. They know State laws are designed to reinforce an unjust status quo. And they've been prepared to answer to something they see as higher. By contrast, you seem driven by resentment.

One lazy baby's 2 cents.

clocker bob wrote:Going through another lazy phase, or going back to being a big baby again?

You're kidding right?
I don't think Andrew's got a lazy bone in his whole body! Bob, you usually don't resort to this type of thing in your arguments, and it doesn't suit you.

rachael wrote:

clocker bob wrote:Going through another lazy phase, or going back to being a big baby again?

You're kidding right?
I don't think Andrew's got a lazy bone in his whole body! Bob, you usually don't resort to this type of thing in your arguments, and it doesn't suit you.

Don't worry, it's all an act. It's a response to a jibe he threw at me in a different thread. We're fine, Andrew and me- our private messages will steam your windows up.

Andrew L. wrote:One lazy baby's 2 cents.

Glad I was able to drag it out of you- still some unexplored territory in this thread. Off to work for me, though, so I'll hit you up with a reply over the weekend, L dawg...

Andrew L. wrote:Bob, my point, and I think vilna's too, is that worker solidarity is transnational. For you, it stops at the border. You've got some weird nativist stuff going on. Like vilna, I don't much buy into the category of 'the proletariat,' but just as capital is multinational, so too resistance is without borders.

...and the clocker bob model is a recipe for inflation, negating the point of isolationism.

vockins wrote:...and the clocker bob model is a recipe for inflation, negating the point of isolationism.

No, in his model we all use bags of gold instead of banks. Gold is inflationless.

It's crazy, but in a "what if?" science fiction sense, it is internally consistent.

steve wrote:

vockins wrote:...and the clocker bob model is a recipe for inflation, negating the point of isolationism.

No, in his model we all use bags of gold instead of banks. Gold is inflationless.

It's crazy, but in a "what if?" science fiction sense, it is internally consistent.

Oh.

Well, if all the Americans get a supersonic jets out of the deal, then the Mexicans can go fuck themselves.

steve wrote:

vockins wrote:...and the clocker bob model is a recipe for inflation, negating the point of isolationism.

No, in his model we all use bags of gold instead of banks. Gold is inflationless.

It's crazy, but in a "what if?" science fiction sense, it is internally consistent.

Very appropriate, the mention of inflation. People can take it seriously or they can blow it off, but I will be posting what I hope will be a useful warning about market trends this evening or tomorrow.

You'll be getting it for free, and if I can do it in less than ten paragraphs, it will only cost you a half hour out of your weekend to read it. The topic will revisit a lot of information that I've included in earlier posts, but now you'll have it one tidy bundle.

Inflation is perpetually misrepresented in the mainstream media as rising prices. It partially is, but it is more accurately defined as "currency devaluation".

Currency devaluation is supposedly controlled by the US Federal Reserve's throttle on the money supply, but in the world of fiat currency that is disconnected from a commodity, a currency's value is always a speculative value, based on faith.

In my forthcoming post, I will detail all the mounting evidence that the global financial community is losing faith in the value of the US dollar. Inflation is already rampant, but because the investment community's two primary goals are first, self preservation, and second, preparing the life boats for the biggest customers before panic ensues in the general population, the true inflation numbers are unreported. You will get a very rosy picture from your television until there is plenty of blood in the water.

There's a reason why the Dow Jones averages and the NASDAQ are usually the lead business story, night in and night out; they are not good barometers of the health of the economy, and they are not predictive of impending bad news unless you read many other numbers along with them.

Check back later. Whatever your stake is in this economy, I may be able to save you some money. And you won't have to dig holes for buried gold in your yards, either.