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Is depression often misidentified as laziness? Can each cause the other?

jason from volo wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:46 pm

losthighway wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:14 pm Is depression often misidentified as laziness? Can each cause the other?

Was this asked rhetorically or were you looking for opinions on this?

Musing. Go for it!

^ Agreed.

And just to be clear I'm not doing one of those intentionally thinly veiled cry for attention things. More like I'm wondering if contentedly unproductive is a thing that many people can do for any length of time. I'm realizing that I'm bad at it.

losthighway wrote: Thu Dec 30, 2021 3:14 pm Is depression often misidentified as laziness?

DSM-5 criteria for depressive disorders includes "A slowing down of thought and a reduction of physical movement (observable by others, not merely subjective feelings of restlessness or being slowed down)." If you look at a PHQ-9, one of the questions is "Moving or speaking so slowly that other people could have noticed? Or so fidgety or restless that you have been moving a lot more than usual?"

So... yes.

Can each cause the other?

From a systems theory standpoint, I wouldn't necessarily argue that "laziness causes depression," but I might argue that a general lack of activity could have systematic consequences that could contribute to an overall biopsychosocial system that is conducive to developing a depressive disorder. Friends might not come by as often, or they might say negative things, your body might undergo metabolic changes, you might feel uncomfortable with your own lack of activity, et c.

But I ain't no psychologist and my social work license is a pretty basic one... I am capable of doing a diagnostic assessment but only under clinical supervision and for sure as fuck not on an internet forum. So take my commentary with a grain of salt.

The cognitive loops boomers will go through to avoid facing the reality that Slash's #1 Les Paul is a counterfeit are nothing short of bewildering. "It's not a counterfeit, it's a replica made by a luthier!" Yeah... it's a guitar made by someone that is not Gibson that is 100% presented as though it was made by Gibson. AKA a counterfeit.

How disheartening it is that even the most intelligent people refuse to embrace change.

How much of what I love is in the past.

How I need to adopt soon so I have someone to give my stuff to when I die.

What the hell happened to jason from volo???

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Striving for a year without Irony or Smug Cynicism

Max Headroom should be the 21st century version of Marco Polo. Why would I give a shit about some asshole who did a lot of walking during the stupid times just because I'm in a swimming pool?

ErickC wrote: Sun Jan 09, 2022 4:09 pm did a lot of walking during the stupid times

Best summary ever.